thecamelot 0 Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 Mainly concerned with turn & river play.. Thoughts?Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cxPreflop: Hero is UTG with K , K . CO posts a blind of $2. Hero raises, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls, 2 folds, Button calls, 2 folds.Flop: (10.50 SB) 8 , 5 , 3 (4 players)Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, MP2 folds, Button calls, Hero 3-bets, UTG+1 calls, Button calls.Turn: (9.75 BB) 9 (3 players)Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, Button raises, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.River: (15.75 BB) 5 (3 players)Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, Button bets, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.Final Pot: 18.75 BB Link to post Share on other sites
ICrushHomeGames 0 Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 looks good, river check is conservative, but correct after button raises turn. Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 The offsuit 5 (along with an offsuit 3) is the best non K river.I dont really want to bet though. If he has a counterfeited two pair, he's probably betting the river anyways and often only calling if we bet, but raising all sets that have filled up (and the straight too). Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 anyone think if we did not improve on river, we should fold?anyone think it would be +EV, not including tilt factor? Link to post Share on other sites
princeof56k 0 Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 anyone think if we did not improve on river, we should fold?anyone think it would be +EV, not including tilt factor?Pot is pretty big there. I dont think I could fold. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 Pot is pretty big there. I dont think I could fold.I know for a fact that I'm not folding getting 16.75-1 on the river. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 anyone think if we did not improve on river, we should fold?anyone think it would be +EV, not including tilt factor?well....no one seems to be adressing the difference between the two questions.Are we making money if we call the river UI?I think we are.And I call for sanity, which, I give substantial weigh to w/o much more evidence.But I think there are some hands that I call on the river, fully *knowing* its -EV yet, for other reasons best to call. Maybe those reasons manifest themselves in ways I don't see or can't describe. Link to post Share on other sites
thecamelot 0 Posted March 27, 2006 Author Share Posted March 27, 2006 I think we're making money, or at least not going insane folding.I'm calling nearly any river there, it's a huge pot.Sanity is a big reason I do some things. Yet, sometimes it has the opposite effect. Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 anyone think if we did not improve on river, we should fold?anyone think it would be +EV, not including tilt factor?If the river is the 7 of clubs and UTG bets, im not overcalling. but that's about one of the only situations im folding the river. Link to post Share on other sites
mk 11 Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 I think the only way I fold the river is if a club or ace falls and then they make it two back to me. I'm calling one bet no matter what. Only need to be best 5.5% of the time. Link to post Share on other sites
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