A Couple Of Kings Make A Big Pot

[thecamelot 0]

Mainly concerned with turn & river play.. Thoughts?Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cxPreflop: Hero is UTG with K , K . CO posts a blind of $2. Hero raises, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls, 2 folds, Button calls, 2 folds.Flop: (10.50 SB) 8 , 5 , 3 (4 players)Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, MP2 folds, Button calls, Hero 3-bets, UTG+1 calls, Button calls.Turn: (9.75 BB) 9 (3 players)Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, Button raises, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.River: (15.75 BB) 5 (3 players)Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, Button bets, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.Final Pot: 18.75 BB

[ICrushHomeGames 0]

looks good, river check is conservative, but correct after button raises turn.

[Abbaddabba 0]

The offsuit 5 (along with an offsuit 3) is the best non K river.I dont really want to bet though. If he has a counterfeited two pair, he's probably betting the river anyways and often only calling if we bet, but raising all sets that have filled up (and the straight too).

[Actuary 3]

anyone think if we did not improve on river, we should fold?anyone think it would be +EV, not including tilt factor?

[princeof56k 0]

anyone think if we did not improve on river, we should fold?anyone think it would be +EV, not including tilt factor?

Pot is pretty big there. I dont think I could fold.

[Zach6668 513]

Pot is pretty big there. I dont think I could fold.

I know for a fact that I'm not folding getting 16.75-1 on the river.

[Actuary 3]

anyone think if we did not improve on river, we should fold?anyone think it would be +EV, not including tilt factor?

well....no one seems to be adressing the difference between the two questions.Are we making money if we call the river UI?I think we are.And I call for sanity, which, I give substantial weigh to w/o much more evidence.But I think there are some hands that I call on the river, fully *knowing* its -EV yet, for other reasons best to call. Maybe those reasons manifest themselves in ways I don't see or can't describe.

[thecamelot 0]

I think we're making money, or at least not going insane folding.I'm calling nearly any river there, it's a huge pot.Sanity is a big reason I do some things. Yet, sometimes it has the opposite effect.

[Abbaddabba 0]

anyone think if we did not improve on river, we should fold?anyone think it would be +EV, not including tilt factor?

If the river is the 7 of clubs and UTG bets, im not overcalling. but that's about one of the only situations im folding the river.

[mk 11]

I think the only way I fold the river is if a club or ace falls and then they make it two back to me. I'm calling one bet no matter what. Only need to be best 5.5% of the time.