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greg raymer commentating on live @ the bike (friday)


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Letting everyone know every wed thru Sat they have a program on www.thebike.com called Live @ The Bike...its a four hour program where a high stakes poker table is commentated on and is completely live at the Bike casino in Los Angeles...they mix it up between high stakes NL and Limit cash games. Anyway Greg Raymer will be commentating and possibly playing tommorw, Friday Feb 25th starting at 6pm Pacific. thought I would put the word out.

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They had a $400 - $800 game on tonight that was pretty interesting. Jerry Buss (Lakers owner, made the final table in a WPT event a couple years back) has got to be the biggest fish in the games he plays. Calling bets to the river with 2nd pair and sometimes just ace high. A funny hand I caught just as i turned it on:Jerry Limps in MP with A-6o, CO raises with 99, BB and Jerry callFlop comes down 9-8-x rainbow, check, check, CO bets, BB folds and Jerry calls (?)Turn is 10, CO bets again, Jerry calls.River is a 7. Jerry checks, CO bets, Jerry raises, you could see the CO sigh but calls.Jerry sheepishly turns over the A-6 and all you hear is the CO let out a big "What the F**K". First time i've ever laughed out loud while watching poker.

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Can someone explain something for me? I was just watching and a guy was all in with jacks against aces. A jack came on the turn giveing the one guy trips and it also gave the aces a flush draw. They said something about a split pot then they put 2 river cards up. What was this?

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Can someone explain something for me? I was just watching and a guy was all in with jacks against aces. A jack came on the turn giveing the one guy trips and it also gave the aces a flush draw. They said something about a split pot then they put 2 river cards up. What was this?
In cash games, usually done in higher limits, the players can agree to "run it twice." Daniel has mentioned it before himself. They run the river twice (burn a card, show one, burn another card, show the second). If someone wins twice, he wins the whole pot. If each of them win once, they split the pot. It's done to prevent bad beats from happening and the player putting the bad beat on a player from taking the "whole" pot and kind of even out the luck factor a little bit more (something obviously the higher limit players generally wouldn't object to).
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Can someone explain something for me? I was just watching and a guy was all in with jacks against aces. A jack came on the turn giveing the one guy trips and it also gave the aces a flush draw. They said something about a split pot then they put 2 river cards up. What was this?
As-Ad VS J-J (not sure of suits)on the turn the board had a J and 3 spades. In live games, to eliminate some variance in "races" they'll agree to run some cards twice. I'm not sure why J-J agreed to run it twice, but he did. The first time they ran it, the set of Jacks held up. The second time a spade fell, giving A-A a flush, so they just split it.It kinda confused me why JJ would agree since A-A only has 11 outs on the river. it doesn't seem +EV for JJ to run it twice. maybe i missed something on the board?
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what limits is the game being currently played at? i am seeing 5 handed flops here where most players have garbage. i understand "mixing" up your play, but playing an 83os, Q7os etc in a 5 handed pot isnt mixing it up, its just being stupid

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Can someone explain something for me? I was just watching and a guy was all in with jacks against aces. A jack came on the turn giveing the one guy trips and it also gave the aces a flush draw. They said something about a split pot then they put 2 river cards up. What was this?
As-Ad VS J-J (not sure of suits)on the turn the board had a J and 3 spades. In live games, to eliminate some variance in "races" they'll agree to run some cards twice. I'm not sure why J-J agreed to run it twice, but he did. The first time they ran it, the set of Jacks held up. The second time a spade fell, giving A-A a flush, so they just split it.It kinda confused me why JJ would agree since A-A only has 11 outs on the river. it doesn't seem +EV for JJ to run it twice. maybe i missed something on the board?
If he's playing above his roll or is otherwise done on a loss, he might make a -EV save to stay in the action.
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is the current game they are playing 5/10 blinds NL1500$?i think thats what the structure is.and boy, some of these players are bad. i could break this game so easily. people have no ability to lay down top pair top kicker/second kicker even when a player basically screams "i have a set/2pair"

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If anyone is still listening, Raymer just made an interesting point on "Bad Beats"....IE you get in as a huge dog (We'll say Kings against Aces), flop your two-outer, and he in turn hits HIS two-outer on the river...is it really a bad beat? Unlucky, sure, but as someone here said less than tactfully, "You started with the worst hand, you ended with the worst hand"...sucks, yes. Bad beat, no, IM (And apparently Raymer's) O.

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