bcook823 0 Posted February 1, 2006 Author Share Posted February 1, 2006 Oh yea I also think so of the things I have read are so "kung fu." a couple of amusing things I read from Gigabet over the last few days.There is a website that ranks online players (i have sent too many away from this fourm with this thread already, so I won't mention it), and they were having problems figuring out what names he uses on which sites. He tells them "don't worry about it, I'd prefer if you didn't list me" SO KUNG FUAnother story that isn't so kung fu, but interesting. They are trying to get this bet together, so he will play all these sng's at each level (which he did horrible at the 11's). They were offering him a 10k bet, and he says "I've had people offer me that much for a 1000 hand histories of mine"sick Link to post Share on other sites
MikeR 0 Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Yeah, I decided to do the gigabet challenge starting at the 5s at Fulltilt. I can't find the original Gigabet challenge thread though. Did he start at 10s with only $165? Link to post Share on other sites
inanevoyage 0 Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 I seriously hope this information doesnt go around every internet forum dealing with gambling.Not like there's a shortage of fish, but seriously....i vote that you let the people who are really trying to gather information stumble into it. Handing out money to people who would have otherwise felt fine about their current game, is very irritating.Brunson did it with his book, originally. Now this semi-underground source of information is slowly going to sift into just another poker forum, filled with meaningless analysis from people who think they know it all after reading a post from gigabet.I apologize if im curt about this, but i dont like teaching my opponents the best ways to learn poker. Link to post Share on other sites
dreamcrusher28 0 Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Good post!! Link to post Share on other sites
silkyjonson 1 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I have a lot of respect for this guy. I have never heard of him before this but reading his posts this guy is thinking at a very high level that I have not come across often. I agree with the gigabet dilemma of taking -ev situations, and have used it in tourneys, namely the weekend at daniels tourney that I did well in, but I have never seen it seen it put together and aritculated like that.I referred to the strategy as "Hansenism" in which case you go into situations and take the worst of it trying to amass a huge stack, but I may have missed or did not see him analyze other reasons for employing this strategy.One reason I like these situations is if you are in a tourney and are raising small stacks and they come over top of you for a substantial bet (one that does not dictate a call mathematically) and you make the call it also sends a message to the other stacks at the table that even if you have a trash hand you will be willing to gamble and put THEIR life at risk, thereby discouraging smaller stacks from coming over you even if they know that there is a good chance they will have a substantial edge ex. AJ vs Q3. This allows you to continue to steal blinds and be aggressive until you run into a big hand.This play becomes even more valuable when players are on the bubble for cashes in which case even more reasons to remain passive are evident. Just thought I would throw some fuel to the gigabet fire.Cheers!! Link to post Share on other sites
Spademan 94 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I referred to the strategy as "Hansenism" in which case you go into situations and take the worst of it trying to amass a huge stack, but I may have missed or did not see him analyze other reasons for employing this strategy.!This isn't what gigabet is saying, nor is it Hansen's MO. Link to post Share on other sites
bcook823 0 Posted February 2, 2006 Author Share Posted February 2, 2006 I seriously hope this information doesnt go around every internet forum dealing with gambling.Not like there's a shortage of fish, but seriously....i vote that you let the people who are really trying to gather information stumble into it. Handing out money to people who would have otherwise felt fine about their current game, is very irritating.Brunson did it with his book, originally. Now this semi-underground source of information is slowly going to sift into just another poker forum, filled with meaningless analysis from people who think they know it all after reading a post from gigabet.I apologize if im curt about this, but i dont like teaching my opponents the best ways to learn poker. I don't think you have a lot to worry about. First, you could put every poker secret in a book and it wouldn't matter. People don't listen. Secondly, the information he is giving is very complexed and not relevant at most stakes. Lastly, your not teaching them anything. Link to post Share on other sites
silkyjonson 1 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I referred to the strategy as "Hansenism" in which case you go into situations and take the worst of it trying to amass a huge stack, but I may have missed or did not see him analyze other reasons for employing this strategy.!This isn't what gigabet is saying, nor is it Hansen's MO.Your right im not saying exactly what gigabet is saying but I am addressing similar issues in taking -ev situations in tourneys for strategy reasons, and if you don't think that Hansen uses the strategy take a look at some of his wpt or pokersuperstars tapes and look at his strategy. For example he called Antonio Esfandiari with like 9 high I believe and made other similar plays that ended up working, people may call this lucky but it has its advantages if the climate is just right. Unfortunately the guy got hit by a bus...... Link to post Share on other sites
bcook823 0 Posted February 2, 2006 Author Share Posted February 2, 2006 I referred to the strategy as "Hansenism" in which case you go into situations and take the worst of it trying to amass a huge stack, but I may have missed or did not see him analyze other reasons for employing this strategy.!This isn't what gigabet is saying, nor is it Hansen's MO.Your right im not saying exactly what gigabet is saying but I am addressing similar issues in taking -ev situations in tourneys for strategy reasons, and if you don't think that Hansen uses the strategy take a look at some of his wpt or pokersuperstars tapes and look at his strategy. For example he called Antonio Esfandiari with like 9 high I believe and made other similar plays that ended up working, people may call this lucky but it has its advantages if the climate is just right. Unfortunately the guy got hit by a bus......I think he is saying that he will take a -ev situation only if he is giving those chips to someone that he can A) get the chips back, due to his relative position at the table B)give the chips to a stack that will not change "their" overall positionIf you were playing with 8 other world class players, then the chips really would flow to the left. I'm not sure this is ever applicalable even at a wsop event. I do think that his main point is relevant for all levels of play. That point being, if you have an extremely large amount of chips, is no different (to him anyway) than just a large amount. He will be playing (stealing) the same with the large or very large stack. He can take the -ev play to bust someone, without changing the way he will play. Link to post Share on other sites
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