anyones opinion of how to play against a friend?

[davey16 0]

Alls fair in love and war.  Try to bust eachother out and then laugh about it later.  Me and my buddies always go at it 100%, then laugh about it later...no hard feelings.

That would not be a problem if we had been doing that from the beginning but the fact that he checkraised me like that is what pissed me off. From now on it is and will be 100% full steam ahead.

[Petoria 0]

Alls fair in love and war.  Try to bust eachother out and then laugh about it later.  Me and my buddies always go at it 100%, then laugh about it later...no hard feelings.

That would not be a problem if we had been doing that from the beginning but the fact that he checkraised me like that is what censored me off. From now on it is and will be 100% full steam ahead.

You really shouldnt be upset, you should know that you can't trust poker players.

[DeanK 0]

In a home cash game or a bar cash game, if my buddies are there were usually there with a few buddies so we play just straight up against eachother, but in a casino where we usually play at a higher limit we usually dont get involved in too many hands together and if we do and we get it to heads up we either check it down or bet like 20 or 30 a card.

This game has more of a casino atmosphere than a home game w/ a lot of fish in it constantly coming in and out so we try to concentrate on breaking them. We do get into hands together but if he made a decent bet on the turn I would have folded thinking he had me beat and that would hve been the end of it but i thought he was not that strong b/c he checked the turn why would you check the turn w/ a flush draw on the board if you have trips or top 2. It makes no sense.So I bet expecting for him to fold....If he would have said I'll check it down w/ you I would have said ok no problem as I would have w/ about 3 or 4 other people at the table.

He's obviously broken your agreement and he's done it before. Doesn't sound like someone you can trust to me. Obviously the agreements off, but I wouldn't tell him that. At least not until you've had a chance to return the favor a time or two.

[benhoug 0]

I never have, nor will I EVER soft-play against anyone. Poker is a game where it's every man for himself. After months of looking for each other in an online game I found myself at the table w/ one of my best friends. He tried soft-playing me, checking on the river rather than try to extract extra bets from me, etc. etc. Menwhile I was playing him tough - check-raising him, etc. etc. If you can't play hard against someone, you shouldn't be playing against them at all.

[Socrates 0]

1st its softplaying in all forms, but it is collusion as well as you guys are going into a game with a predetermined strategy. Poor etiquette and unfair to all of the other players.Soft PlaySoft playing is to not bet your hand to the fullest extent when playing against someone (usually friends and/or family). It goes against the spirit of the game and is considered cheating in some instances.

[Azwethinkweiz 0]

Someone mentioned it up there, but I find myself playing people I know really well harder then anybody. I had a 3 year stretch where I played with the same 6 people 3 nights a week. When you are friends with someone, you know them away from the cards. You know how they tick, therefore you have an advantage.Never try laying down against a friend. Now to be honest I've found myself less likely to make stone cold bluffs when I have them pegged for a particular hand, but you just cant do it. In theory it might feel as if friends should take it easy on each other, but when you really get rolling in cards, you will find you use them as your lesson. You play them harder, you observe them better, then anybody else at the table.Of course 3-checking the nuts is going to piss a friend off, but that's the beauty of it. You will find having friends you play with alot, improves your game.

[tyfgine 0]

if yall had a deal that was pretty sorry of him, id have sex with his wifea la george costanza

Yeah? Well, the jerk store called....

their runnin outta you!

too bad your their all-time best seller!

[seed of Doyle 0]

Don't play poker with friends if it becomes uncormfortable beating them out of pots. If you want to be soft on your friends, win the pot the best way you can and pay them what you won off he/she back when you leave. Or, just wait until next game as he/she might win it back from you next time. Sitting at tables watching friends in a HU situation and check it down to the river is annoying, and lame.

[KoRnholio 2]

There were some donks at my NL cash game table at the casino last weekend who were borderline sopftplaying each other as well. There were 3 of them, a donk, a guy with a massive stack and his girlfriend.Big stack busted his girlfriend and pretty much said when he goes to cash out she'll have her hand out, no problem there.But another time, a guy at the other end of the table made a moderate sized all in raise of the big stack's bet. Donk and big stack and agree to check down the dry sidepot before the flop comes. Donk had AQo, big stack had A7s. By the river big stack made his flush, Donk top pair (queen on the flop) and the all in guy a set of 9's or something. I found a new table shortly after. Even though it's not completely out of line to agree to check it down like that, I'd rather play at a table where that doesn't regularily happen.

[Andyec 0]

I love turning 2 pair with shitty cards against a friend in a casino. Long live Q-6! He wasn't happy.

[finztotheleft 0]

Two friends and I play at a local bar a couple times a week. It is 1/2 nl and everyone sits w/ around $300. When we play tourneys there we have an agreement that if one person cashes we give the others 10% if they were in the tournament. We do not play together or team up on people we just do that b/c one of us is always cashing and we play in a lot of tournaments.But in the cash games we play it straight but try to avoid getting into big pots against one another. What we agreed on doing was that if we were in a big pot together and one of us got a monster hand we would just make a strong bet at the pot so that we would not bust each other. Well on 4 occasions I have made it unprofitable for the other guy to call say it is on a flush draw or str8 draw when i have flopped a set or top 2 for example but he has chased it to the river and out drawn me. Well last night he makes a raise in early position and i am in 3 off the button in a 10 handed game....1 person had called him so i made the call w/ Ace 3 of spades and two more people behind me call....We see the flop 5 handed w/ $50 in the pot.... Now he normally a pretty tight player..so i put him on a premium hand. The flop comes Ace 3 7 rainbow. He bets out 15 one player folds, I just called b/c they had two people behind me and he would have played AA or Ak like that. Both players behind me fold so we are heads up....Now remember out agreement tht if you have a strong hand you bet it and the other guy folds. Well he checks the turn to me so now I have 2 pair w/ the nut flush draw...the only premium hand that beat me or AA(not likely b/c I have an ace), or AQ or QQ which he obviously would bet on the turn per out agreement. Well he checks the turn i that tells me that i have him beat so I bet out $60 to say get out my pot and he moves allin for another $74 on top of that. Now at that point I don't know what the hell he's doin but now there is $270 in the pot and it is $70 to me w/ two pair and nut flush draw...I call and he has AQ.....My question is this : Is there anyway he was not trying to get me to double him up b.c all his past actions say that he was and what should i do from this point on?All input is appreciated. thanks in advance

I would definitely bring this to the attention of the bar manager. The guy lied to you when you were supposed to be colluding together. Report him immediately !