FCP Bob 1,311 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I'm not......arrogant.....enough to try and successfully project the millions of reasons and permutations of events that lead up to this guy shooting himself in the head and neither should you. What I do know is that there is way more to this story and I expect it's pretty sad. I have no problem with suicide by gun any more than I have a problem with suicide by other means that doesn't cause mayhem and other deaths. The thing is that suicide rates and attempts go down when there isn't a readily available gun. The Israeli Army saw a sharp decline in them when they stopped allowing soldiers to take home their guns. Link to post Share on other sites
Roll the Bones 74 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 The thing is that suicide rates and attempts go down when there isn't a readily available gun. The Israeli Army saw a sharp decline in them when they stopped allowing soldiers to take home their guns. The mental gymnastics people use to defend guns in our country is amazing. Guns aren't the problem, Americans are. Link to post Share on other sites
GWCGWC 83 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 The dude that offed himself at the car race wasn't in the Israeli army. There's also a difference between the suicide rates of Israeli citizens and Israeli active duty members both before soldiers could take guns home and after. It's a nice stat to back up the anti-gun crowd in that it's hard proof that in one segment of circumstances, the availability of guns directly impacts the suicide rate. The pro-gun crowd have hard stats over a decade to show how national crime rates drop as gun sales go up. The pro-gun crowd can also show how gun deaths skyrocketed when extremely strict gun control measures were put into effect in Chicago even though the higher gun deaths has little to do with gun control but instead it's the socioeconomic issues that cause a huge increase in crime and gun fatalities. LOL statistics, right? Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 The Halifax police recently issued a statement aimed at curbing the "rash" of car thefts recently. Basically, they said people should lock their cars, as more than 2/3 of "thefts" had been of cars that were unlocked and with the keys left inside. I like living in Canada (and not in Toronto or Vancouver). Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,311 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 The Halifax police recently issued a statement aimed at curbing the "rash" of car thefts recently. Basically, they said people should lock their cars, as more than 2/3 of "thefts" had been of cars that were unlocked and with the keys left inside. I like living in Canada (and not in Toronto or Vancouver). Too bad that Halifax has a much higher crime rate than Toronto http://www2.macleans.ca/crime-chart/ Link to post Share on other sites
Roll the Bones 74 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 The dude that offed himself at the car race wasn't in the Israeli army. There's also a difference between the suicide rates of Israeli citizens and Israeli active duty members both before soldiers could take guns home and after. It's a nice stat to back up the anti-gun crowd in that it's hard proof that in one segment of circumstances, the availability of guns directly impacts the suicide rate. The pro-gun crowd have hard stats over a decade to show how national crime rates drop as gun sales go up. The pro-gun crowd can also show how gun deaths skyrocketed when extremely strict gun control measures were put into effect in Chicago even though the higher gun deaths has little to do with gun control but instead it's the socioeconomic issues that cause a huge increase in crime and gun fatalities. LOL statistics, right? But those stats have largely been debunked. Their is a reason the NRA pushed congress to make it illegal for to track guns stats in many cases. The instances of gun violence in cities that enacted stricter laws showed that the people simply went to the burbs and neighboring cities to purchase the guns. Pinker writing in Why Violence has Declined pretty much nailed it about Americans and their "honor code" mentality about shooting first and thinking about the decision later, and their desire to ignore the rules of law. He basically tracks from the immigrants coming to America and their influences and mentality which explains why NE states mainly with English immigrants are liberal, and the south was populated by Irish (and other) farmers who had pretty much lived without a rule of law and subsisted on their "honor code" of conduct. You know, you knock my daughter up and you marry her at gunpoint. Your cow messes up my fence, I get to keep the cow. You dissrespect my name, I'll shoot you. You' take my gun from my cold dead hands. Nuke them summbitchs. Kenyan commie president. Traditional marriage. Anti-Sharia laws. Louisiana has a violence rate similar to 1700's Europe per/100K and is it a wonder they want to teach creationism in schools? Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 The NRA makes it illegal to track gun stats? You sure about that? Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,311 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 The NRA makes it illegal to track gun stats? You sure about that? The NRA Has Made It Nearly Impossible To Find Accurate, Current, American Gun Statistics Read more: http://www.businessi...1#ixzz2Qg3JycQd How The NRA Killed Federal Funding For Gun Violence Research Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/cdc-nra-kills-gun-violence-research-2013-1#ixzz2Qg3aQsrl Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Too bad that Halifax has a much higher crime rate than Toronto http://www2.macleans.ca/crime-chart/ Doesn't mean much. The huge majority of crime takes place in a very secluded area of the city where there are a few rival gangs. If you aren't a member of one of those gangs, and don't have the misfortunate to live in that area, you're in good shape. I get that there are "bad" areas in most cities, but the area in Halifax is so far out of the way, and the violence so heavily skewed towards those small groups (which is exacerbated in rates by a small population) that it is misleading. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Turns out it wasn't the Aryan Brotherhood, it was the ex-wife. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,311 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Turns out it wasn't the Aryan Brotherhood, it was the ex-wife. both are equally dangerous 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 @RichardDawkins 41m People who are identified as Jews have won more than 20% of Nobel Prizes, yet constitute less than 1% of the population. Astonishing success God's Chosen People, AMIRITE, DICK? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Happy Earth's Day Link to post Share on other sites
Roll the Bones 74 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Happy Earth's Day Well, your hero the creationist Ken Hamm has it all figured out, http://blogs.answersingenesis.org/blogs/ken-ham/2013/04/22/earth-day-eliminating-all-references-to-him-day/ It's an athiest conspiracy plot to remove all references to "him". As a biblical creationist, let me illustrate how I would deal with a specific issue like climate change, which can serve as a useful example of how we should use biblical principles when we approach any issues associated with Earth Day. I argue that the earth’s climate has gone through a few major periods of change, but in every case, humans did not produce the change. Ever since the Flood of Noah’s time, about 4,400 years ago, people have seen an unsettled earth in its sin-cursed state. Many smaller climate changes have occurred and continue to occur (perhaps in cycles). Whether humans have contributed significantly in a detrimental way is just not suggested by the evidence we have at hand Link to post Share on other sites
Roll the Bones 74 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Hey, here's a look at our LIbertarian future! NO big guberment to do that evil regulation of those perfectly safe law abiding factories that wouldn't harm a fly in the name of profit, The lobbyist are already out in full force complaining about people wanting a right "not to be blown up". http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-19/texas-explosion-seen-as-sign-of-weak-u-s-oversight.html Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,311 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Idiot customer tries to tackle armed bank robber and gets a teller shot and then he chases them and also gets shot Dramatic video shows shooting inside Toronto bank Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,311 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Not a good first day on the job for the new anchor http://youtu.be/P_uX1RczgQA Link to post Share on other sites
Whiskers 680 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 He got fired for it too. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,311 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 He got fired for it too. I guess Day 1 is within the probationary period Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,311 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 The Mounties arrest them before they blow stuff up. Dudley Do-Right is better than Fox Mulder Two men arrested over ‘al-Qaeda inspired’ plan to attack a Via Rail train in Toronto area: RCMP Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Hey, here's a look at our LIbertarian future! NO big guberment to do that evil regulation of those perfectly safe law abiding factories that wouldn't harm a fly in the name of profit, The lobbyist are already out in full force complaining about people wanting a right "not to be blown up". http://www.bloomberg...-oversight.html Fertilizer plant was built in 1962... School was built after that. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 The Mounties arrest them before they blow stuff up. Dudley Do-Right is better than Fox Mulder Two men arrested over ‘al-Qaeda inspired’ plan to attack a Via Rail train in Toronto area: RCMP I really think it would be better if we didn't jump to any conclusions about these fellows and their intent and motives. Being member of al qeada is apparently relevant since they were probably influenced more by being in Toronto. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Well, your hero the creationist Ken Hamm has it all figured out, http://blogs.answers...ces-to-him-day/ It's an athiest conspiracy plot to remove all references to "him". http://www.freedomworks.org/blog/joncgabriel/the-13-worst-predictions-made-on-earth-day-1970 "Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind." — Harvard biologist George Wald "We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation." — Washington University biologist Barry Commoner "Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction." — New York Timeseditorial "Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years." — Stanford University biologist Paul Ehrlich "Most of the people who are going to die in the greatest cataclysm in the history of man have already been born… [by 1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s." — Paul Ehrlich "It is already too late to avoid mass starvation," — Denis Hayes, Chief organizer for Earth Day "Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions…. By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine." — North Texas State University professor Peter Gunter "In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution… by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half." — Lifemagazine "At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it's only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable." — Ecologist Kenneth Watt "Air pollution...is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone." — Paul Ehrlich "By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate… that there won't be any more crude oil. You'll drive up to the pump and say, ‘Fill 'er up, buddy,' and he'll say, ‘I am very sorry, there isn't any.'" — Ecologist Kenneth Watt "[One] theory assumes that the earth's cloud cover will continue to thicken as more dust, fumes, and water vapor are belched into the atmosphere by industrial smokestacks and jet planes. Screened from the sun's heat, the planet will cool, the water vapor will fall and freeze, and a new Ice Age will be born." — Newsweek magazine "The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age." — Kenneth Watt Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Probably should have a thread just for Bidenisms. Link to post Share on other sites
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