LongLiveYorke 38 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Really nice article describing the corruption in congress. It's written by one of the better thinkers of our time, imohttp://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405...share_tweet_bot Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Really nice article describing the corruption in congress. It's written by one of the better thinkers of our time, imohttp://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405...share_tweet_bot Is that like a 'really nice article about how water is wet?Cause it really achieves the same thing in my book.But I am glad you are keeping with the left's required way of thinking: Destroy the messenger, ignore the message.Unless of course you are not trying to ignore the message, I am just defending the poor woman because you lefties are so full of hate for her.Did I call you a lefty yet? Cause if not, LEFTY Link to post Share on other sites
strategy 4 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 that's a good article. I hate the writing. but it's good. Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 good article about the gas tax:http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/18/opinion/tsay...html?hpt=hp_bn9 Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 I wonder what Tempting Eyes look like ?http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011...pting-eyes.html Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 good article about the gas tax:http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/18/opinion/tsay...html?hpt=hp_bn9 That is a good article. Unless you're a rabid against all taxes person it presents the issues fairly. Link to post Share on other sites
AmScray 355 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Gas taxes to fund infrastructure maintenance actually make sense. One argument I've never accepted, though, is that if a particular nation has low taxes in one regard relative to other nations, that by itself is an adequate reason to raise them. It's a pathetic, meritless argument. If you want to raise taxes, articulate a position why you need to generate this revenue to pay for something needed.The argument of "Yeah, well, our taxes are low relative to what Europe pays, so we're going to raise them to pay for (insert good intention here) because, ya know... They pay TWICE that in Germany!" is always stupid. That essentially engages every nation in a taxation race which makes sense to politicians, but is pretty awful overall. Link to post Share on other sites
hblask 1 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 good article about the gas tax:http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/18/opinion/tsay...html?hpt=hp_bn9 Good article, I think the important point they missed though: the myth that gas taxes are used for road building. With each year, more and more has gone to politically motivated mass transit boondoggles. Basically, at this point, if you drive, you are subsidizing empty train cars. Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Good article, I think the important point they missed though: the myth that gas taxes are used for road building. With each year, more and more has gone to politically motivated mass transit boondoggles. Basically, at this point, if you drive, you are subsidizing empty train cars.This was the sad thing about the ARC project being shut down or delayed. It's one if the few mass transit systems that gets incredibly heavy use.We collect so little in gas taxes though that I'm sure if we collected more we could find a way to use some to fix bridges and roads.Scram, I agree that argument is of little use but since she presented plenty of actual arguments I didnt care. Also, she drew a parallel between other countries having higher tax rates and also having better infrastructure projections. Link to post Share on other sites
strategy 4 Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 are gas taxes regressive? I searched the article for the term and it landed in the comments, so I just closed the tab. my gut is yes, they are regressive, so why's the left pushing for it? Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 are gas taxes regressive? I searched the article for the term and it landed in the comments, so I just closed the tab. my gut is yes, they are regressive, so why's the left pushing for it?A lot of the left likes gas taxes for environmental reasons. Tax gas and less oil will be needed or pollution produced.All sales or excise taxes are regressive.Some people on the left like gas taxes since they see them as being a fair tax. By taxing gas you're charging those who use the roads and infrastructure for them which is fairer than just paying for everything out of general tax revenues. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 New York Magazine article from David FrumWhen Did the GOP Lose Touch With Reality? Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 New York Magazine article from David FrumWhen Did the GOP Lose Touch With Reality? awesome. If he thought he was dead to Fox news before..... Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 In Case You Were Wondering Why We Keep Bailing Out Wall Street...Not that there was any mystery about why the government keeps shafting Main Street and bailing out Wall Street, but in case you had any doubts, this chart excerpt below from XKCD should put them to rest. More than anyone else, Wall Street has the power to hire and fire our elected officials. So it's no wonder that those officials take care of Wall Street first. (The Wall Street money, by the way, goes to both sides of the aisle. And that's to be expected. If you're a bank, there's no sense in picking a side when you can just own both teams.)Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/in-case-you...1#ixzz1edsFOuPz Link to post Share on other sites
BaseJester 1 Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 All sales or excise taxes are regressive.I don't see how this is the case. If there's a 5% yacht sales tax, how is this regressive? The poor pay nothing and the fabulously rich pay a tax proportional to their dollar consumption of yachts. Maybe I don't understand how you're using the word. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 I don't see how this is the case. If there's a 5% yacht sales tax, how is this regressive? The poor pay nothing and the fabulously rich pay a tax proportional to their dollar consumption of yachts. Maybe I don't understand how you're using the word.I guess I should have qualified it by saying general sales or consumption taxes are regressive. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 In Case You Were Wondering Why We Keep Bailing Out Wall Street...Umm, did they just use unverified material from a comedy blog for their research? Link to post Share on other sites
strategy 4 Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Umm, did they just use unverified material from a comedy blog for their research?he posted a link to his sources for it on xkcd.saw that comic whenever it was released, spent precisely no time examining it. infographics are, by and large, fucking terrible. sometimes the creator doesn't even intend to mislead you, but they still fuck it up, because it takes a lot of thought and effort to get it right. this turd from a few days ago exhibits exactly what I'm talking about. Link to post Share on other sites
BaseJester 1 Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 he posted a link to his sources for it on xkcd.saw that comic whenever it was released, spent precisely no time examining it. infographics are, by and large, fucking terrible. sometimes the creator doesn't even intend to mislead you, but they still fuck it up, because it takes a lot of thought and effort to get it right. this turd from a few days ago exhibits exactly what I'm talking about.Another strong nonsensical pie graph: Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 In Case You Were Wondering Why We Keep Bailing Out Wall Street...If you combine all of those contributions, you have almost the same amount the unions gave directly to Obama alone in 2008, which was >$200million. Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 guess the Democrats finally found enough women to pretend Herman Cain sexually harassed them to force him out of the race. They obviously feared his grasp of foreign policy issues and ability to say the number 9.http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/herman-...-165214461.html Link to post Share on other sites
SilentSnow 1 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 guess the Democrats finally found enough women to pretend Herman Cain sexually harassed them to force him out of the race. They obviously feared his grasp of foreign policy issues and ability to say the number 9.http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/herman-...-165214461.html It was inevitable- Cain is a complete joke. I stand by my theory that the Republicans don't actually want to win this election. Does anyone else find it funny that many tea partiers refuse to vote for Romney because he isn't "christian" enough, but instead support Gingrich, who is about as unchristian as you could possibly get? Link to post Share on other sites
akoff 0 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 It was inevitable- Cain is a complete joke. I stand by my theory that the Republicans don't actually want to win this election. Does anyone else find it funny that many tea partiers refuse to vote for Romney because he isn't "christian" enough, but instead support Gingrich, who is about as unchristian as you could possibly get? i don't know that the Christain part of it that big of a deal, I know i am not a big fan of romney's history. the heathcare is a deal breaker. Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 i don't know that the Christain part of it that big of a deal, I know i am not a big fan of romney's history. the heathcare is a deal breaker.Yeah creating the most popular, well run state healthcare system was terrible of mitt. Conservatives: where wild success is a deal breaker. It's the same reason why conservatives hate Barack's foreign policy. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 It was inevitable- Cain is a complete joke. I stand by my theory that the Republicans don't actually want to win this election. Does anyone else find it funny that many tea partiers refuse to vote for Romney because he isn't "christian" enough, but instead support Gingrich, who is about as unchristian as you could possibly get?You have never met, talked to, or read anything written by anyone in the Tea Party have you?Yeah creating the most popular, well run state healthcare system was terrible of mitt. Conservatives: where wild success is a deal breaker. It's the same reason why conservatives hate Barack's foreign policy.Its so popular that everyone wants to move to Mass...oh wait...and President Obama's foreign policy? What exactly is it? I mean besides "Do what Bush did", what other foreign policy does President Obama have? Please enlighten us, cause we can't see anyone other actions done independently off shores other than taking vacations Link to post Share on other sites
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