mizrachis crew

[typesick 0]

The Grinder played correctly and made the correct decision virtually every time. His opponent consistently made plays that made almost no sense mathetmatically...

[Acesgotcracked 0]

well go do the nasty with Linda Johnson for 1.8 million. Dont make yourself look like a bunch of uncivilized savages on national television.

[Acesgotcracked 0]

I'll give you that. He plays correct mechanical poker, which is fine if you pick up I think 6 pocket pairs at one final table and are making hands consistently. People that play that way dont win unless they catch cards. he simply shows no creativity or courage in his play.

[Meatwad 0]

Mizrachi's crew definately has to go I mean he moves all in and they go crazy before the other guy calls and start chanting like a bunch of monkeys. At least wait until he calls or the hand is over to chant. If I was making a decision that was worth $1.8 million and they were chanting like that I'd definately be annoyed. Half of them won't be around once he starts cooling off.

[FileError404 0]

Poker is no longer the "gentleman's game", it's become a choice of middle class America like basketball and baseball. Nobody's ever dumped on Michael Jordan for the obscene amount of trash he talked on the court.

Am I missing something? When has Poker ever been the Gentleman's game? Back when they shot and robbed each other? This isn't Golf or Tennis, never have been, never will be......thank god...

[DrunkAces 0]

Mechanical Poker? To get to the final table I'm sure he had to be a bit creative and couragous. Maybe they edited alot of hands to show him that way?

[theStork 0]

we really don't know how things actually were. we only get the editied version. however, mizrachi's crew were punks, but haralabos was goading mizrachi. i actually enjoyed watching haralabos getting the smackdown. although, i'll take a 900k smackdown anytime. :lol:maybe mizrachi's crew can go cheer esfandiari.

[kouta43 0]

you idiot acesgotcracked. Poker is all about changing gears, playing the right brand of poker for the time and not making mistakes. That was what Mizrachi did. Do you want him too fold his good hands jsut so he can go all in on a bluff. You stupid ****wit. Most of your posts lack intelligence, go read the dictionary before your next post.

[dpan1084 0]

I'll give you that. He plays correct mechanical poker, which is fine if you pick up I think 6 pocket pairs at one final table and are making hands consistently. People that play that way dont win unless they catch cards. he simply shows no creativity or courage in his play.

All you see is the final table and the hands they show...I believe at one point in time He was 27th with 27 people to go and he grinded his way to a huge chip lead coming into the final table...Thats the problem with poker on tv is guys like you that think these guys are just so lucky cause all they do is play there big hands

[KenpoHai 0]

man the haralabos volgrousaso gave me badass indigestion last night

[HurricaneKyle 0]

I don't see how anyone could not be impressed with the Grinder. Just because he doesn't play maniac poker, doesn't mean he is a bad player. Poker can be played successfully by various styles if the driver makes the right decisions. Grinder plays a solid game, and I think its awesome.Not many young players have the discipline to lay down JJ when the odds justify a call. He knows when to apply the break.

[Spadecrazy 0]

I've been perusing this site and the forum for some time and have enjoyed reading a lot of the posts, but this is the first time I've felt compelled to reply. I was in the audience for the taping of the L.A. Poker Classic. I had no rooting interest and was simply there to enjoy watching it live. In the beginning, I found myself rooting for the Grinder because of his excellent play and it seemed like he wanted it more than the rest. Once it got down to three-handed and especially heads-up, I completely changed who I was rooting for. The Grinder's crew was unbeleivably rude, obnoxious and out of line. There must have been about 20-30 of them and TV didn't show the half of it. They were shouting obscenities and Linda Johnson had to ask them to quiet down about three different times. Once it got heads up, they were taunting Harabalos and making fun of his suit, pink tie, etc. I was actually getting upset with them myself and was hoping Harabalos would take it down just to shut them up. They showed no class whatsoever and at one point Harabalos asked Grinder "What's up with your boys? Why are they so rude?" Grinder just shrugged. If Harabalos came off cocky at all it was because he was obviously upset from being taunted by Mizrachi's crew.

[StrikerX9 0]

I know Mike "The Grinder" personally as we've played together a bunch of times over at the Hard Rock Casino down here in S. Florida. He' s not a bad guy himself, although I will say he is cocky when it comes to poker...but really there's nothing wrong with that. As it refers to his crew though, they're a bunch of idiots who all think they are just as good as Grinder and their time is coming. One of them got their ass kicked recently down here by a 50 year old man who was sick of their sh!t talking at the table and told him to step outside. Once they were there the guy clocked him and he went down just as security showed up. If you look at the WPT tape, he's the idiot wearing the Armani tshirt.

[steve7stud 0]

In my experience, the grinder has been a great guy. We've played together a couple of times and he always displayed class. His opponent however, I found to be failry arrogant.As far as Mizrachi's enterouge. For the most part they're nice guys who are just happy for their friend. The media WANTS his friends to chant his name and do all that crazy stuff. It's good for ratings. It's quite possible that they might have been encouraged by certain people other than Michael to do what they did.

[Spadecrazy 0]

I'm only talking about Mizrachi's crew here, not him. I just played with him at the Mirage tournament and he's definitely a nice guy. His crew was not encouraged by anyone, they were drinking and a few of them were just downright jackasses. I felt bad for Harabalos to have so many people literally yelling at him between (and sometimes during) hands. There's a certain amount of needling that anyone should expect to take, but this was so out of line that a few non-Mizrachi people in the audience told them to shut up. Like I said, the WPT people and Linda Johnson told them to quiet down three different times.

[Acesgotcracked 0]

Kouta, you got major problems if you feel the need to cuss someone out cause you disagree with them.I never said I didn't think he was a solid player and I did quantify my statement by saying from what they showed on TV. I just think that his crew should not be allowed to act like that and that he should of said something to try and control them. It was ridicoulis and it makes poker look bad to anyone with any kind of edjucation. Not saying he cant get excited, but theres just no need for dancing around and jumping up and down.

[Acesgotcracked 0]

Also, when did I suggest he fold A-K so he could bluff with some weak hand. I stated that we never got to see him really make a gutsy aggressive move. I guess moving in with 10-7 after Haralabos made that faboulous call but he really had no choice because the blinds were so high.

[LAPoker 0]

I don't think that it is his crews fault. I went to the PPT events final table taping the day after his win. At the PPT final table they instructed the audience that they were all part of the broadcast, and that they should cheer, hoot, and holler for whoever they were rooting for. So I am sure that those guys were just following the instructions that they were given. By the way if my buddy just won two million I think I might be a little excited too.

[typesick 0]

You guys are acting as if he just got lucky... He did get some big hands...but he lost some races as well... He's done well at other final tables and also recently won the $10,000 entry heads up tournament at the Mirage...Daniel, Phil, Scotty, and many other big names were all at the event...Mizrachi is for real...

[tripOne 0]

Gosh, I thought the Haralabus (sp?) guy was the censored one. I couldn't stand him. Mizerachi came off like much more of a gentlemen to me then the othe guy. I knew he won the event, but I still found myself continually cheering for him.

Took the words out of my mouth...

[Chiggleslap 0]

am the only one who is getting sick of poker being turned into a WWF forum with people chanting and doing TD dances after every big win. Also am I the only one who thought the grinder came off as an arrogant punk on that show, snidely telling Haralabos good luck with A-K vs. K-2(as to say haha your dead). I know he didn't win but I really liked how Haralabos approached that final table, nice call with A-4. Too bad he choose to move with K-2 there.

Yes you are, now STFU. Since when did poker become High Holiday services (or Church for our non Jewish friends :-)I for one like the extra excitement that fans are bringing to the game. I watched the first superstars and thought it was boring. There was no emotion in the game. You sucked out on someone everyone said good hand and moved on. That's BS, I want to see passion and emotion. These guys are playing for $1.8M, they need to act like asses and jump up and down at certain times. You need to get of your high horse and get a life. I bet if you were in there shoes you would do the same.

Feel free to share your opinion, but nobody wants an a$$hole like you speaking for the rest of us. Regardless of whether or not I agree with you, you're an a$$hole, now shut the f.uck up. Since when were you entitled to berate somebody on behalf of the rest of this forum? I hope to god that you're NOT representative of the majority, because if you are, I've lost a lot of faith in the majority. Did I mention that you were an a$$hole?

[Chiggleslap 0]

you idiot acesgotcracked. Poker is all about changing gears, playing the right brand of poker for the time and not making mistakes. That was what Mizrachi did. Do you want him too fold his good hands jsut so he can go all in on a bluff. You stupid censored. Most of your posts lack intelligence, go read the dictionary before your next post.

I really wish that they'd ban people like you before they got started.The only reason I'm responding to your posts is because they are completely lacking in any sort of redeeming value, and you need to be put in your place.Before you start being an a$$hole to people on this forum, at least have some substantial input so we can look past your being a f.ucking a$$hole.

[Oziumrules 0]

I find Mike Matusow 5000 times more annoying then "The Grinder" & Harabolos. Both of them were trying to get in each others head, its the final table of a major poker event for God's sake. Attitude is very important in heads up play and I thought Mizrachi's actions were fine due to the major amounts of adrenaline pumping through his veins. Now for his crew....so what, there were pumped for him and Im sure the WTP loved the reaction of the crowd also (ratings). Now if you really want to see a Heads Up Match with two very rude, cocky & self absorbed people, set up a TV match with Hellmuth & Matusow. Now thats entertainment. I think a mix of personality is good for the game! Lederer & Doyle are the class act of the game and poker needs some Bad Boys...or maybe some cry babys!

[Pokerghost2 0]

a tourn is an up and down thing. ur gonna show emotion when u win. haralabos acted like a jerk and if i had him nailed w AK vs K2 i woulda said the same thing or worse. then i woulda jumped up on top of the table and did one of TOs touchdown dances. Its poker not church. There is no moral code, the game was born out of partners and card mechanics. at least its clean now.

[Pokerghost2 0]

but if the guy was decent id never do that. haralabos was an arrogant prick.