Pot Odds RAC 23 Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Live Casino MGM Grand DetroitSaturday Night $1/$2 TXHeHero is playing pretty Tight Stack = $400Button is older guy. Not very good. Tight, but badly overplays marginal hands. Stack = $350Preflop:Hero catches Several LimpersHero Raise to $15Button CallsAll limpers FoldFlop: Hero Bet $25Button CallTurn: Hero Bet $25Button CallRiver: Hero CheckButton Bet $25Hero...? Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 If you are going to bet that turn, bet more.As played, I think you're behind here a good amount, but pot-odds and your read make this a call for me.A flush-draw and a pair hand makes sense. KT, QT, 9T with a heart maybe. I imagine you'll see the Ah here a good amount, but the pot is ~$135 and you are getting 5.4-1.Also, it's hard live, but if you take note of stack sizes, every piece of info helps us make the best decisions. Link to post Share on other sites
MaxStPolish 4 Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 As played, I think you're behind here a good amount, but pot-odds and your read make this a call for me.A flush-draw and a pair hand makes sense. KT, QT, 9T with a heart maybe. I imagine you'll see the Ah here a good amount, but the pot is ~$135 and you are getting 5.4-1. Link to post Share on other sites
Pot Odds RAC 23 Posted August 31, 2009 Author Share Posted August 31, 2009 If you are going to bet that turn, bet more.As played, I think you're behind here a good amount, but pot-odds and your read make this a call for me.A flush-draw and a pair hand makes sense. KT, QT, 9T with a heart maybe. I imagine you'll see the Ah here a good amount, but the pot is ~$135 and you are getting 5.4-1.Also, it's hard live, but if you take note of stack sizes, every piece of info helps us make the best decisions.Stack sizes added.By the time the River hit, I thought he had AT or KT with a Heart too. Link to post Share on other sites
MaxStPolish 4 Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 i still don't see the stack sizes?That said. I feel like AhTx is the pinnacle of his holdings through this hand. it would be consistent with every single decision made (if he's not that good a player, as he should obviously be raising this up post flop with AhTx IMO). That being said that flop adds a lot of naked hearts to his range. He could have any AhXx with this line (doesn't matter as u still lose), as well as any broadway heart with a T, etc partner.I still think the ace on the river got you and AhTx puts out a must call value bet at the end....and he succeeds because at 5.5:1 I wouldn't fold 2nd pair here without a no doubt read. Link to post Share on other sites
Pot Odds RAC 23 Posted August 31, 2009 Author Share Posted August 31, 2009 i still don't see the stack sizes?Well that is because I are a moran.Added. Link to post Share on other sites
NoBBiR 0 Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Why the small turn bet? Link to post Share on other sites
tskillz187 0 Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Turbo call? It's $25 to win $155.I'd call with like 44 here on the off chance that he is betting a heart that didn't get there. Link to post Share on other sites
Temporary Nuts 1 Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Turbo call? It's $25 to win $155.I'd call with like K9 here on the off chance that he is betting a heart that didn't get there.FYP Link to post Share on other sites
redhollywood 0 Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 I think you take that hand on the turn if you raise more. Link to post Share on other sites
Pot Odds RAC 23 Posted August 31, 2009 Author Share Posted August 31, 2009 Why the small turn bet?To find out where I was.Just kidding.At that point I still felt I was likely ahead but there are a lot of ways to lose the hand, I could even be behind at this point. At the same time, I know it gives him odds to call if he is drawing. That is where I think I may have "butchered" it a bit. Link to post Share on other sites
tskillz187 0 Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 Yeah I'd probably bet/fold the flop and turn for around potsize bets. Bet/folding the flop could turn into bet/shoving depending on how much "overplays marginal hands" is a solid read. Link to post Share on other sites
Pot Odds RAC 23 Posted August 31, 2009 Author Share Posted August 31, 2009 Well, it doesn't seem like y'all were massively critical of my line on this one. Bet sizing wasn't great. I did make the crying call.Frankly I was a little pissed at what the guy showed. Not certain if I was more angry with his play or my own.Spoiler follows: Button showed Qh4h for a Flopped Flush. Guess I'm the Donkey who overplays marginal hands Link to post Share on other sites
Temporary Nuts 1 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Don't be results oriented Link to post Share on other sites
Pot Odds RAC 23 Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 Don't be results orientedThis is going to sound like sarcasm, but it is intended to be as sincere as possible......that is the best advice I've received in some time. Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 It's fantastic advice. Link to post Share on other sites
IAGTTAYM 0 Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 Bet bigger on flop and turn. I cant see the river card for some reason, but if I check I can't see myself folding for $25 on just about any card so call. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Def betting more on the turn. As played, calling river. Hint: Old men often play for aces and flushes. I'm surprised you didn't see a bigger river bet here. Link to post Share on other sites
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