potatoman 0 Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 I could go and find the hand history and convert ..but I'm lazy and it's easy to spell out.blinds 100-200UTG- Villain 1 - 5000 chipsButton - Villain 2 - 3000 chipsSB -Hero 2000 chips (JJ)BB - Villain 3 -2000 chipsV 1 - min raises to 400V2 - callsHero - ??First - With no reads/ "normal opponents"?Second - Reads.UTG has been pretty aggressive throughout. Since bubble and gaining chip lead, he raises if he's first to act about 95 percent of the time.Button is a terrible calling station, esp. post flop and I don't think he really "gets" sngs.BB is solid.Hero? Link to post Share on other sites
copernicus 0 Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 either way its a push Link to post Share on other sites
Kid DynOmite 0 Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Must push jj here its unexploitable. either way its a push Link to post Share on other sites
foxxer 0 Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 yea, especially since open minraises at the higher blind levels in SNGs arent necessarily the "disguised monsters" Link to post Share on other sites
WhatArunAA 0 Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 insta shove Link to post Share on other sites
sennin 0 Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 yea, especially since open minraises at the higher blind levels in SNGs arent necessarily the "disguised monsters"+1from $6-27 sngs I never respected any utg minraises, it was almost always a terrible hand Link to post Share on other sites
Aces Rule 0 Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 either way its a pushyou're down to 10BB and opp so a shove would be pretty standard. Except for Btn flatting and the BB getting terrific odds to call a stop-n-go might have been an option but the fewer hands you have to play the better so shove pre-flop. Link to post Share on other sites
potatoman 0 Posted August 13, 2008 Author Share Posted August 13, 2008 you're down to 10BB and opp so a shove would be pretty standard. Except for Btn flatting and the BB getting terrific odds to call a stop-n-go might have been an option but the fewer hands you have to play the better so shove pre-flop.This was the only other option I think I had. While I don't hate it, I'd rather be shoving. I was 99.99 per cent sure shoving was correct, just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. Mostly because I fully expected to be getting called by the SB, but I also expect the BB and the CO to fold.This wasn't a bad beat BTW. I shove, BB folds, CO folds, SB calls as I expected with KQ, hit a Q and gg. Link to post Share on other sites
GeneralGeeWhiz 0 Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 This was the only other option I think I had. While I don't hate it, I'd rather be shoving. I was 99.99 per cent sure shoving was correct, just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. Mostly because I fully expected to be getting called by the SB, but I also expect the BB and the CO to fold.This wasn't a bad beat BTW. I shove, BB folds, CO folds, SB calls as I expected with KQ, hit a Q and gg.dude it was the right move. don't worry. Link to post Share on other sites
MovingIn 0 Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 dude it was the right move. don't worry.^^^^ Nothing more than ending up on the bad end of a race. Link to post Share on other sites
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