Dobbo049 0 Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Hey guys, me again...Been reading up on feeler bets (small bets used to get information for an opponant, to "see where your at") but dont know what size of a bet to go with. Obviously you dont wanna bet anything so small that everyone calls because defeating the object of getting rid of anyone "getting lucky". And is dosnt wana be so big that no one dares to call you...So can anyone give any advice on how much you bet as a Feeler Bet?ThanksStu Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbo049 0 Posted March 22, 2008 Author Share Posted March 22, 2008 huh? Link to post Share on other sites
ROBBBIGG 0 Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 I would be willing to bet up to 0 big blinds as a feeler bet Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbo049 0 Posted March 22, 2008 Author Share Posted March 22, 2008 0 Big Blinds..........as in Somthing Less than the big blind? Link to post Share on other sites
Money022 0 Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 0 Big Blinds..........as in Somthing Less than the big blind?I think the point ROBBBIG is trying to make is that he thinks feeler bets are gay. Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbo049 0 Posted March 22, 2008 Author Share Posted March 22, 2008 thats what i thort but wether he thinks they are gat or not does not answer my question Link to post Share on other sites
ABigMotivation 0 Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 It can depend on the pot size sometimes, but I usually bet 2x the big if the blinds are still low. Link to post Share on other sites
Money022 0 Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Maybe it's just me, but I find that if I'm not sure how strong my opponent is or where I stand in a hand, I get more information from checking to an opponent as opposed to leading into them when out of position. Their reaction to my check generally gives me a pretty good idea of where I'm at.If I have position and had to make what you call a "feeler" bet, then I probably go for about 2/3 the pot. The reason I say that is 2/3 is often the size of continuation bet I make with a hand or with air after taking the lead preflop. You should keep your feeler, or info bet, within the range of your normal betting pattern. If you do anything outside of that then it may stick out as strength or weakness, but I would lean towards weakness if I was on the observing side of it. Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbo049 0 Posted March 23, 2008 Author Share Posted March 23, 2008 thanks much appreciated :)I dont like checking, because your just encourageing others to stay in the pot. They could have a flush draw and checking gives them a free card which if they dont hit they will fold and if they do. they will raise wich is 1/4 chance they will hit it...........so you just given them 25% of the potIt also gives people change with a low pair to wait and see if they get lucky and hit 2 pair of trips. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Hey guys, me again...Been reading up on feeler bets (small bets used to get information for an opponant, to "see where your at") but dont know what size of a bet to go with. Obviously you dont wanna bet anything so small that everyone calls because defeating the object of getting rid of anyone "getting lucky". And is dosnt wana be so big that no one dares to call you...So can anyone give any advice on how much you bet as a Feeler Bet?ThanksStuI don't think they have much value. I toss out a 1 bb bet live once in a while on an obv trips flop as a jopke to get the person with trips to raise and not "slowplay" thier "big hand" to the river so we can move along and get to the next hand.And yeah, that does mean in a 1/2 game I throw two white chips into a $30 pot to get the person with the real hand to bet. Link to post Share on other sites
breathweapon 0 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 About 1/3 of the pot, tho' I'd rather just fold or donk/check raise with a marginal holding against a wide range OOP most of the time. Link to post Share on other sites
Temporary Nuts 1 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 I don't think they have much value. I toss out a 1 bb bet live once in a while on an obv trips flop as a jopke to get the person with trips to raise and not "slowplay" thier "big hand" to the river so we can move along and get to the next hand.And yeah, that does mean in a 1/2 game I throw two white chips into a $30 pot to get the person with the real hand to bet.I was about to say I never probe bet... then i realized i did this...LOL... 7 people in the pot and the flop comes A-A-x and the world checks around... Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 I was about to say I never probe bet... then i realized i did this...LOL... 7 people in the pot and the flop comes A-A-x and the world checks around...I always toss in two bucks and say, "Bet your ****ing hand, moron, or I'm gonna run you down with runner runner straight for two bucks a street and make you look like a retarded gibbon." Then Mr. Tight raises to ten, we can all fold and move on. If we check/look at each other over a paired board, waiting for Mr. Trap to ACTUALLY BET HIS OWN HAND, we'd get 15 fewer hands in in a four hour session. I'll pay the extra $2 to get those 15 hands, because I know one of them is gonna be a $100+ pot for me. In an 8 hour session, it's $200. Link to post Share on other sites
David_Nicoson 1 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Ignoring the cash vs. tournament issue for a moment, I've noticed that I think several of the ideas in Harrington on Hold'em are, well, pretty stupid against competent villains. I have a pending order for his cash book through Amazon, though. I'm starting to question why that it is. Link to post Share on other sites
Sheiky 0 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Ignoring the cash vs. tournament issue for a moment, I've noticed that I think several of the ideas in Harrington on Hold'em are, well, pretty stupid against competent villains. I have a pending order for his cash book through Amazon, though. I'm starting to question why that it is.Makes sense considering they were written before everyone read them and learned how to play, i think a lot of stuff from the theory of poker and super system is really outdated and not relevant much today as well.The problem with a 'true' 'feeler' bet is that you're gonna get raised a lot more often so you're just making it harder not easier for yourself. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Raising "feeler" bets is way more profitable and provides more information than making them in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites
Temporary Nuts 1 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Ignoring the cash vs. tournament issue for a moment, I've noticed that I think several of the ideas in Harrington on Hold'em are, well, pretty stupid against competent villains.That doesn't mean the information of "why they do it" is useless, however. Link to post Share on other sites
breathweapon 0 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Ignoring the cash vs. tournament issue for a moment, I've noticed that I think several of the ideas in Harrington on Hold'em are, well, pretty stupid against competent villains. I have a pending order for his cash book through Amazon, though. I'm starting to question why that it is.Light bathroom reading Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Raising "feeler" bets is way more profitable and provides more information than making them in the first place.I see 80% of what looks like "feeler bets" getting raised. And yeah, I'm doing a lot of the raising. It's insanely profitable to just go ahead and represent whatever someone is "feeling out." Link to post Share on other sites
Temporary Nuts 1 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 I see 80% of what looks like "feeler bets" getting raised. And yeah, I'm doing a lot of the raising. It's insanely profitable to just go ahead and represent whatever someone is "feeling out."But if I know you know this... do I put out a feeler bet to see if you'll represent what I'm actually holding? O_o Link to post Share on other sites
breathweapon 0 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 I see 80% of what looks like "feeler bets" getting raised. And yeah, I'm doing a lot of the raising. It's insanely profitable to just go ahead and represent whatever someone is "feeling out."True, but following that logic, a feeler bet attached to a set etc. isn't that bad for inducing a bluff. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 But if I know you know this... do I put out a feeler bet to see if you'll represent what I'm actually holding? O_oYeah, but you have to actually be holding it, which is .... <20% of the time. That's OK with me if you wake up with it 1 out of five times I try it. Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbo049 0 Posted March 24, 2008 Author Share Posted March 24, 2008 i only use feeler bets when i think i have a good hand but think somone may have a better one.By placeing a small but not minimal bet im showing that i have a hand, this will probbably force out anyone who has nothing (stopping them "getting lucky"), any one who calls ill assume they probably have some kind of hand so now i need to think what it may be. And somone who raises, depending on the size mite tell me that they may have an overpair or set.So i find them usefull but only in situations likes that, where your not sure if you have the best hand but dont know what your opponants mite have.ThanksStu Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 i only use feeler bets when i think i have a good hand but think somone may have a better oneThen don't bet. Link to post Share on other sites
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now