Hmm...stakes And Rails Forum

[bdc30 0]

Before the mods wake up and move this to "suggestions" to die out - what do you guys think of a stakes and rails forum? Not sure what would be left in General at that point, but maybe that will help it take on more of a life of its own.I don't know about anyone else, but I'd love to be able to have a place to post to give and receive stakes and those interested in railing could congregate there too. Tourney stakes and rails or something like that?There are about a dozen useless forums that could be condensed/removed, etc if space is an issue.

[Tosh 0]

Before the mods wake up and move this to "suggestions" to die out - what do you guys think of a stakes and rails forum? Not sure what would be left in General at that point, but maybe that will help it take on more of a life of its own.I don't know about anyone else, but I'd love to be able to have a place to post to give and receive stakes and those interested in railing could congregate there too. Tourney stakes and rails or something like that?

i agree its getting crazy how mant threads in here are for stakes

[bdc30 0]

i agree its getting crazy how mant threads in here are for stakes

Not that I mind stakes (especially if someone wants to give me one - or multiple...) per se, BUT, when a "Two stakes to a $4.40" thread takes up 5 pages and ends up at the top of general for a half a day, it's kinda pathetic. The three guys involved could just as easily open up a chat room and have the same conversation.

[Jordan 1]

i think it should all stay in general.too many sub forums as is.i go to three places. occasionally 4. general, general strat, nlhe strat, sometimes off-topic.- Jordan

[TB17 0]

Before the mods wake up and move this to "suggestions" to die out - what do you guys think of a stakes and rails forum? Not sure what would be left in General at that point, but maybe that will help it take on more of a life of its own.I don't know about anyone else, but I'd love to be able to have a place to post to give and receive stakes and those interested in railing could congregate there too. Tourney stakes and rails or something like that?There are about a dozen useless forums that could be condensed/removed, etc if space is an issue.

What would be left? THE CHALLENGE THREAD.

[StupidKid 0]

i think it should all stay in general.too many sub forums as is.i go to three places. occasionally 4. general, general strat, nlhe strat, tourney strat.Adam

FYP to fit me because I'm lazy.<3

[Mrjones_76 0]

Before the mods wake up and move this to "suggestions" to die out - what do you guys think of a stakes and rails forum? Not sure what would be left in General at that point, but maybe that will help it take on more of a life of its own.I don't know about anyone else, but I'd love to be able to have a place to post to give and receive stakes and those interested in railing could congregate there too. Tourney stakes and rails or something like that?There are about a dozen useless forums that could be condensed/removed, etc if space is an issue.

I was thinking the same thing yesterday...but I kind of like em so I guess I disgree.

[Merby 3]

i think it should all stay in general.too many sub forums as is.i go to four places. general, general strat, nlhe strat, omaha strat.- Jordan

FYP to fit me because I'm too lazy to write my own post, and too stupid to come up with original ideas.

[WhatArunAA 0]

It appears to me that all these stake threads are just giving beggars an opportunity to breed here at FCP.... general is now filled with beggars waiting for a stake... and who knows if they will even pay back.FWIW... I think the only stakeage that should be done on the site is the 10 dollar Sunday tourney because it appears that FCP really loved that idea.... but with every good idea you will have many people trying to exploit and take advantage of any opportunity given to them.

[James D 0]

It appears to me that all these stake threads are just giving beggars an opportunity to breed here at FCP.... general is now filled with beggars waiting for a stake... and who knows if they will even pay back.

Yup. My thoughts too.It's been suggested before and been rejected on the grounds of 'community spirit' or something like that. However, when it's mainly (I know there's sometimes others, but I mean 'mainly') the same handful of people leeching within 5 seconds of a stake thread opening, along with a group of people with >25 posts, I'm not sure it does.

[sisass 0]

i think the mods should close/delete the stake threads quicker.as in, once the selected number of stakes are handed out the thread is closed so no new post can be tagged on, most are 4.40 stakes so take it to the 4.40 rail thread if someone final tables. i dont think we need a five page thread where 4 pages are people who have missed the boat asking for a stake and the last page is updates talking about how everyone busted in 100th place.as for not throwing up stakes....i think having a set rule would be a better idea....i.e no one with less then 200-300 posts can ever get a stake and even then you may not get one if people arent sure about you ( trust wise ) we could sticky this as a hard rule and stop people from posting in those threads.

[tuckermitchell 1]

i think the mods should close/delete the stake threads quicker.as in, once the selected number of stakes are handed out the thread is closed so no new post can be tagged on, most are 4.40 stakes so take it to the 4.40 rail thread if someone final tables. i dont think we need a five page thread where 4 pages are people who have missed the boat asking for a stake and the last page is updates talking about how everyone busted in 100th place.as for not throwing up stakes....i think having a set rule would be a better idea....i.e no one with less then 200-300 posts can ever get a stake and even then you may not get one if people arent sure about you ( trust wise ) we could sticky this as a hard rule and stop people from posting in those threads.

the issue at hand is so funny to me. why does it matter if someone posts a 4.40 rail thread or makes a thread of 5 pages about a stake thread. this is a democracy, and as such you are free to read what you want and what you don't. This is something of the same argument people make for talk radio or tv, if you don't like to listen or see those particular things, don't listen or watch. I have a hard time believing DN is running around from house to house and standing behind people forcing them to open every new 4.40 thread in general poker. ****, I would venture to guess that 90% of people who come here never make it out of that forum, and that's fine. Most, and I stress MOST, of the low limit threads are clearly announced as to what they are in the title so don't click them. And furthermore, does it hurt your head when you read more than a certain amount in a day and you are trying to use that space for important ****. I know if I open something that is stupid and read it I MOVE ON... it's really simple and you guys should try itjs

[Cappy37 0]

I'm going a different direction on this one: The WSOP just ended.. HSP doesn't start back up for a couple weeks. ESPN is taking their sweet time putting the WSOP shows on the air. The Sunday 100k got skipped a week.In short, it's been a slow news day for a while now for the General Poker Forum. The General Poker Forum is sitting right where the NBA-Sports and Television forums are: a sputtering state of stasis. No new content to go over = a drought of discussion. It's cyclical.. Once HSP gets going again, the WSOP starts airing, and Daniel starts playing in some big tourneys, it'll all be good once again.Let's not go knee jerk and sub-topic everything. Remember, if we make staking and railing a separate entity, that kills roughly 30% of the traffic *to* general poker. It's like a supermarket.. The bread and milk are in the supermarket, but they are waaaay in the back of the supermarket, so everyone has to trudge down the aisles to get to what they came for. It forces a more active role from those not prone to be active.. Imagine general for 5 minutes without the extra traffic.I already know how GetSprung feels about player treatment toward dealers. I know how Zimmy loves to welcome new posters. I know how gmanshade feels about Hellmuth. I know how FWP likes to write poety. I know Chrozzo occasionally imbibes to a state of excess. We can argue general can get rather stale from time to time. But without the influx of new blood to make the daily threads a little more entertaining, it will *all* die. Variety is the spice of life, c'est la vie, all that jazz. I jump into general to do a couple things: See if anyone is at a FT to rail 'em, see whats up in the challenge thread, check the news stories of the day, and then I wander off the Sports and Tourney Strategy. Think of General Poker as the front of a Mom and Pop's store. You have the Cigar-Store Indian out front, the silly lighting, the ashtray, the daily specials billboard, and possibly a couple hoodlums playing hacky sack. It's cheesy, it's predictable, it's not much beyond the surface, but it's also the first thing people see when they enter FCP for the first time. We gotta keep up our appearances, it's just simply how it is. I've been here for a couple years, I'm not a FCP rookie by any means. I've was here far prior to the charter member-cutoff, I remember the good ol' days, where posts from Royal, RonMex, TenEight, Dutch, J-Web, Tritz, and god knows it's too many to name littered General Poker. GenPoker was great once, it'll be great again. Just wait it out. It's not currently poker season, we need all the potential fodder to riff on in general that we can.

[sisass 0]

the issue at hand is so funny to me. why does it matter if someone posts a 4.40 rail thread or makes a thread of 5 pages about a stake thread. this is a democracy, and as such you are free to read what you want and what you don't. This is something of the same argument people make for talk radio or tv, if you don't like to listen or see those particular things, don't listen or watch. I have a hard time believing DN is running around from house to house and standing behind people forcing them to open every new 4.40 thread in general poker. ****, I would venture to guess that 90% of people who come here never make it out of that forum, and that's fine. Most, and I stress MOST, of the low limit threads are clearly announced as to what they are in the title so don't click them. And furthermore, does it hurt your head when you read more than a certain amount in a day and you are trying to use that space for important ****. I know if I open something that is stupid and read it I MOVE ON... it's really simple and you guys should try itjs

thats not what i said man.i have zero problem with staking, or staking threads...my problem is the poeple who open the threads an hour after the staking is complete and blindly bump it with their name on stars. if the thread gets to 5 pages with meaningful discussion thats great, but if a day later people are still bumping it to ask for a stake its retarded.

[BrandonPL 0]

as for not throwing up stakes....i think having a set rule would be a better idea....i.e no one with less then 200-300 posts can ever get a stake and even then you may not get one if people arent sure about you ( trust wise ) we could sticky this as a hard rule and stop people from posting in those threads.

I'm not exactly sure why everyone always says 200-300 posts is a must. I staked a few people the other day on tilt because I have money in there. If someone offers a stake on stars, I'm going to jump at it because thats my only chance to get a bankroll on their again (none of the deposit options work for me). I'm under 200 posts, but I have stakes others and therefore don't I deserve the chance to get staked also?Plus, if anyone ever runs a stake for a HORSE tourney, and then looks at my HORSE info on OPR, they would be an idiot to pick most the others on here over me.

[sisass 0]

I'm not exactly sure why everyone always says 200-300 posts is a must. I staked a few people the other day on tilt because I have money in there. If someone offers a stake on stars, I'm going to jump at it because thats my only chance to get a bankroll on their again (none of the deposit options work for me). I'm under 200 posts, but I have stakes others and therefore don't I deserve the chance to get staked also?Plus, if anyone ever runs a stake for a HORSE tourney, and then looks at my HORSE info on OPR, they would be an idiot to pick most the others on here over me.

its just a way to ensure youre not going to get f'd over. i know i would never screw someone out of money but alot of others dont know me and might look at my low post count and think im not trust worthy. also some people with high posts counts arent trust worthy so i guess its kind of a slippery slope. i think its more about whether people recognize your "face" and know that youve been around enough and have made enough meaningful posts to trust...there are a ton of of people on here with less then 200 posts that i would stake so perhaps just saying you have to be a known poster rather than setting a number of posts as a minimum.i just want to say again, im all for stakes. i think theyre great and ive been staked once from someone on this site. so if youre willing to stakes someone you should and no one should shun you to a different part of the site, but i think we can all agree the 5 page long threads where 90% of it is people asking for stakes LONG after its closed are a bit tiresome. having to wade through it all to find any meaningful insightful posts or updates is a chore.

[James D 0]

I'm going a different direction on this one: The WSOP just ended.. HSP doesn't start back up for a couple weeks. ESPN is taking their sweet time putting the WSOP shows on the air. The Sunday 100k got skipped a week.In short, it's been a slow news day for a while now for the General Poker Forum. The General Poker Forum is sitting right where the NBA-Sports and Television forums are: a sputtering state of stasis. No new content to go over = a drought of discussion. It's cyclical.. Once HSP gets going again, the WSOP starts airing, and Daniel starts playing in some big tourneys, it'll all be good once again.Let's not go knee jerk and sub-topic everything. Remember, if we make staking and railing a separate entity, that kills roughly 30% of the traffic *to* general poker. It's like a supermarket.. The bread and milk are in the supermarket, but they are waaaay in the back of the supermarket, so everyone has to trudge down the aisles to get to what they came for. It forces a more active role from those not prone to be active.. Imagine general for 5 minutes without the extra traffic.I already know how GetSprung feels about player treatment toward dealers. I know how Zimmy loves to welcome new posters. I know how gmanshade feels about Hellmuth. I know how FWP likes to write poety. I know Chrozzo occasionally imbibes to a state of excess. We can argue general can get rather stale from time to time. But without the influx of new blood to make the daily threads a little more entertaining, it will *all* die. Variety is the spice of life, c'est la vie, all that jazz. I jump into general to do a couple things: See if anyone is at a FT to rail 'em, see whats up in the challenge thread, check the news stories of the day, and then I wander off the Sports and Tourney Strategy. Think of General Poker as the front of a Mom and Pop's store. You have the Cigar-Store Indian out front, the silly lighting, the ashtray, the daily specials billboard, and possibly a couple hoodlums playing hacky sack. It's cheesy, it's predictable, it's not much beyond the surface, but it's also the first thing people see when they enter FCP for the first time. We gotta keep up our appearances, it's just simply how it is. I've been here for a couple years, I'm not a FCP rookie by any means. I've was here far prior to the charter member-cutoff, I remember the good ol' days, where posts from Royal, RonMex, TenEight, Dutch, J-Web, Tritz, and god knows it's too many to name littered General Poker. GenPoker was great once, it'll be great again. Just wait it out. It's not currently poker season, we need all the potential fodder to riff on in general that we can.

You should be a politician. Seriously.That was thoughtful and well written.

[BigDMcGee 3,355]

I think it's funny how crazy the stake threads have gotten. It seems like it happened over night to me. I also think it's funny how quick people are to put rules on it.. saying you can't post the threads or only people with x many posts should get stakes.. if the staker wants to give out stakes to a guy with 3 posts, let him lol. All a post count requirement will do is cause more "+1" posts. It's always been my belief that forums are better with less rules.

[Cappy37 0]

You should be a politician. Seriously.That was thoughtful and well written.

The way I see it, about 50% of my posts are complete schlock, so I really throw myself into the other 50%. I majored in economics, I could give you a fascinating 10 page type essay on the contents of the back of a Nyqill bottle, it's a side effect of writing intensive courses. And thank you, it was very chakra-warming to write on my end, as well.

[king1305 0]

You should be a politician. Seriously.That was thoughtful and well written.

2+2=5 now?

[taylorhb0 0]

2+2=5 now?

You're a radiohead fan too?

[FCP Bob 1,321]

I'm going a different direction on this one: The WSOP just ended.. HSP doesn't start back up for a couple weeks. ESPN is taking their sweet time putting the WSOP shows on the air. The Sunday 100k got skipped a week.In short, it's been a slow news day for a while now for the General Poker Forum. The General Poker Forum is sitting right where the NBA-Sports and Television forums are: a sputtering state of stasis. No new content to go over = a drought of discussion. It's cyclical.. Once HSP gets going again, the WSOP starts airing, and Daniel starts playing in some big tourneys, it'll all be good once again.Let's not go knee jerk and sub-topic everything. Remember, if we make staking and railing a separate entity, that kills roughly 30% of the traffic *to* general poker. It's like a supermarket.. The bread and milk are in the supermarket, but they are waaaay in the back of the supermarket, so everyone has to trudge down the aisles to get to what they came for. It forces a more active role from those not prone to be active.. Imagine general for 5 minutes without the extra traffic.I already know how GetSprung feels about player treatment toward dealers. I know how Zimmy loves to welcome new posters. I know how gmanshade feels about Hellmuth. I know how FWP likes to write poety. I know Chrozzo occasionally imbibes to a state of excess. We can argue general can get rather stale from time to time. But without the influx of new blood to make the daily threads a little more entertaining, it will *all* die. Variety is the spice of life, c'est la vie, all that jazz. I jump into general to do a couple things: See if anyone is at a FT to rail 'em, see whats up in the challenge thread, check the news stories of the day, and then I wander off the Sports and Tourney Strategy. Think of General Poker as the front of a Mom and Pop's store. You have the Cigar-Store Indian out front, the silly lighting, the ashtray, the daily specials billboard, and possibly a couple hoodlums playing hacky sack. It's cheesy, it's predictable, it's not much beyond the surface, but it's also the first thing people see when they enter FCP for the first time. We gotta keep up our appearances, it's just simply how it is. I've been here for a couple years, I'm not a FCP rookie by any means. I've was here far prior to the charter member-cutoff, I remember the good ol' days, where posts from Royal, RonMex, TenEight, Dutch, J-Web, Tritz, and god knows it's too many to name littered General Poker. GenPoker was great once, it'll be great again. Just wait it out. It's not currently poker season, we need all the potential fodder to riff on in general that we can.

What he said.Oh and +1

[rivergirl 2]

Not that I mind stakes (especially if someone wants to give me one - or multiple...) per se, BUT, when a "Two stakes to a $4.40" thread takes up 5 pages and ends up at the top of general for a half a day, it's kinda pathetic. The three guys involved could just as easily open up a chat room and have the same conversation.

personally, i like stake threads. Sometimes i like to rail some of the staked player. Having an open thread makes this much easier to do. Personally, if you don't want to read 5 pages, don't read it. I like the idea of a 440 thread, although, now it's 60-something pages. What's the difference really? It's not like there is much going on in gen anyway?