Tournament Hand-push And Reshovel

[bigbadbeat 0]

this situation came up in a tourney tonight and i realize i really didnt have a clue what i should have done, any help would be nice...new to the table, no real reads on anyonePokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)CO (t6543)Button (t4295)SB (t18118)BB (t3720)Hero (t14093)UTG+1 (t8593)MP1 (t20730)MP2 (t9555)MP3 (t771)Preflop: Hero is UTG with A , J . Hero calls t400, UTG+1 calls t400, 2 folds, MP3 raises to t746, 2 folds, SB calls t546, BB calls t346, Hero calls t346, UTG+1 raises to t8593, SB folds, BB folds, Hero folds.1/ should i have been the bigstack that pushed2/ failing that should i have called the all in

[RISEorFall 0]

how many are left? whats the payout structure?open limping AJo is pretty bad. as is youre probably racing for over half your stack.

[StupidKid 0]

Wow, Limpin AJo utg is fairly horrible tbh. I basically never open-limp, first in=raise. If you don't feel comfortable playin AJo UTG at a full table then just muck it, but with your stack this shud be a fairly standard raise to 2.5-3bbs.As played, fold to the UTG+1 shove.

[bigbadbeat 0]

dont usually limp there, but short stack had just been crippled, and i usually just limp facing the "inevitable" all in, but as posted ya it looks weak as all get out.Money Bubble had just broken, so about 200 people left.

[monix 0]

I fold AJ UTG except in two situations: 1) Limp with AJs early in a tournament, and 2) late in a tournemant if I am the table chip leader, I'll raise AJs or AJo. Otherwise fold because you often end up OOP racing or dominated...

[cdipierr 0]

Out of curiosity, what site is this? The raise from 400 to 746 is not a valid raise so it really shouldn't have re-opened the action to you or UTG+1.Nevermind, saw it was PS, but still, I thought they didn't do the 1/2 raise thing in NL.

[Yahkin 0]

Out of curiosity, what site is this? The raise from 400 to 746 is not a valid raise so it really shouldn't have re-opened the action to you or UTG+1.Nevermind, saw it was PS, but still, I thought they didn't do the 1/2 raise thing in NL.

MP3 went all-in (It appears there's an ante of 25.), so it's a valid raise.

[rog 0]

The questions you asked are irrelevant because the limp is absolutely horrible, and puts you in a tough spot. You have to raise or fold there with AJ. I think raising AJ from UTG is marginal. It's a little better here as a big stack since you want to keep some pressure on your opponents. On the other hand, BB has an M of around 5, so if he has a playable hand here, he's shoving, and you're playing for 1/4 of your stack. I guess my image would be the decider. If I've raised more than a couple times in the last orbit or two, I'd lay down AJ here, otherwise, I raise, and call a shove by either of the short stacks. If a medium or large stack re-raises, I might call, or I might fold depending on reads and stack sizes.As played, I might raise to isolate, but I wouldn't shove. You cant call the UTG+1 iso push in my opinion. It's probably a middle pair or something, but even if it is, I dont want to flip for my whole stack when I'm doing well.

[Al Smooth 0]

ummm...if the BB is 400, how is anything less than 800 (746 in this situation) a valid raise?

[rog 0]

On some sites, an all in that is more than half a min raise constitutes a valid raise. Based on this hand, I would assume that's how it is on PS, although it's never come up for me yet.

[monix 0]

ummm...if the BB is 400, how is anything less than 800 (746 in this situation) a valid raise?

Umm....he is all in, maybe?

[Al Smooth 0]

Umm....he is all in, maybe?

I get that part...I have played this game once or twice before...my point is that without a complete raise, his bet can only be called and not re-raised by any player who's already in the pot...ie the utg+1 who had already limped his way in.The poster before you had already given an explaination that may be true although it doesn't make me very happy with their rules interpretations.

[Yahkin 0]

I get that part...I have played this game once or twice before...my point is that without a complete raise, his bet can only be called and not re-raised by any player who's already in the pot...ie the utg+1 who had already limped his way in.The poster before you had already given an explaination that may be true although it doesn't make me very happy with their rules interpretations.

I think the key may be that he doesn't close the betting. SB and BB have yet to act, so they are allowed to raise. Even though they didn't I think the betting remains open because of this.Not sure though, I get yelled at live from time to time.