100-20'000 Challenge Within 2 Months

[Exodustjs11 0]

Loose donkey cash games are the way to go.Play safe and leave when you're up for your 1st week, until u are comfortable, then start to buy in with the max and play a bit longer looking for more profit.eventually, if your BR grows, you should be able to play a more solid comfortable game, which (if you are a fundamentally strong player) will result in higer winnings.P.S> YOU will NEVER make 20k in 9weeks.try 5k. trust me.cheers

i do agree very much with you the last time i was in a cash game i left the table with 7x the inital buy in from playing at a loose table but thats why im gonna be doing them on the side, sngs for the main source of income and cash games to give me the eventuall boost to move up the limits. I wrote out a whole plan on here...i would post it but its wayyy to long

[cubsfan44 0]

Post when you go broke

[Exodustjs11 0]

will do

[derek_pizzle 0]

In the words of Homer J Simpson, "You're going to be a successful failure" (I think that's right?)

[Jeepster80125 0]

i do agree very much with you the last time i was in a cash game i left the table with 7x the inital buy in from playing at a loose table but thats why im gonna be doing them on the side, sngs for the main source of income and cash games to give me the eventuall boost to move up the limits. I wrote out a whole plan on here...i would post it but its wayyy to long

I don't really think you read rog's entire post, or it went in one e-ear and out the other. Planning on taking 7X buyins when you play cash is just ridiculous.Like cubsfan said, please let us know when you go broke.

[Exodustjs11 0]

I don't really think you read rog's entire post, or it went in one e-ear and out the other. Planning on taking 7X buyins when you play cash is just ridiculous.Like cubsfan said, please let us know when you go broke.

im not planning on taking 7x the buy in on every session im just saying ive done it before went into .25 .50 with 20 bucks left with 140Im not gonna go broke anyways because I know how to manage my money

[Exodustjs11 0]

As a follow-on, my recommendation to OP is that you race to 2k first with no time-line and then re-evaluate a second stage race. Also, learn to play the 45 man SNGs. If you play well, you can maintain a ridiculous ROI in these things up to the $5 level.I'm in a 50-1k race using a version of Jesus Ferguson's BR management principles as a guideline. I'm around 500 after almost 2 months. That said, poker is about my 4th priority after family, career and sports, so I don't think I'm playing much more than 10 hours per week. I started off playing 45 man $1 turbos on Stars, moved on to the $3 45 man turbos, and now play the $4 180 man and $5 45 man SNGs. All these games are beatable for large ROI by a good player. Much larger than any level of STT.

I deff see what your saying, first for me is famliy then poker then school i usually play around 40-45 hours a week. I deff plan on doing MTT's esp the 180 persons i just want to build with the 9 handeds slowely but sureley to produce an income to be able to afford the MTTS to a point where a loss or 5 wont have a big effect, like when i win 5 first place finishes and make up for the losses and in reality up lets say 120 im going be playing at least 5 of 180s and if i win im closer to my goal if i lose then back to the sngs till i get to a point where i feel like i can do the MTTS again

[cubsfan44 0]

im not planning on taking 7x the buy in on every session im just saying ive done it before went into .25 .50 with 20 bucks left with 140Im not gonna go broke anyways because I know how to manage my money

I think youre getting the wrong impression from everyone's posts. No one here wants to see you go broke. I for one would love to see you turn $100 into $20000. People are just commentng on the fact that your "challenge" is virtually impossible. My "post when you go broke" comment stems from the fact that in order to have any chance at succeeding in your "challenge" you will have to risk going broke each and everyday. I wish you the best of luck but am concerned that you are setting yourself up for failure though

[Exodustjs11 0]

I think youre getting the wrong impression from everyone's posts. No one here wants to see you go broke. I for one would love to see you turn $100 into $20000. People are just commentng on the fact that your "challenge" is virtually impossible. My "post when you go broke" comment stems from the fact that in order to have any chance at succeeding in your "challenge" you will have to risk going broke each and everyday. I wish you the best of luck though

Oh ok i see what your saying now. i mean it might be impossible but instead of 20'000 my goal is to get as close to 20'000 as possible yeah i did take it in the wrong way haha i thought u guys were saying im deff going broke haha. Im just gonna take everyones advice and try to do what i can and in the end maybe throw a private tourney with a nice prize pool for the everyone

[Merby 3]

let's see. Running 100 to 600 in $5 SNGs at 40% ROI is $2 per game on average, or 250 games. Earning another 600 (to hit 1200) on $10 SNGs at 25% ROI will take 240 games, so that's about 500 games to hit 1200. Now you still have to double your bankroll 3 times to close it out. Let's see. Playing with 50 buyin bankroll, doubling up is winning 50 buyins. at 10% ROI, it's one buyin per 10 games, or 500 games per doubling of your roll (assuming you double stakes when you double your roll. So that's another 1500 games. All together, a minimum of 2000 games over 60 days, or 33 per day each and every day wihtout exception. At 1 hour per STT, that's 4-tabling 8 hours a day, 7 days a week. That's also assuming you can maintian $10 ROI at $20, $40, and $80 dollar STT levels (which would be VERY impressive).So, if you are a VERY impressive STT player, and if you plan on working 56 hours a week, you MIGHT be able to pull it off. Playing a little shorter would speed things a bit (you dont need 600 to play $10 sngs), but I think it is a HUGE stretch to get to 10k in 2 months.I can only assume you intend to move to MTTs and get lucky.[edit] Crap...my numbers are to 10k. Double one more time is 500 more games at 10%, so 43 games per day , or 10+ hours per day 7 days a week.[/edit]

Everyone should reread this post, this time with your ear close to your computer monitor. If you're *really* quiet, you can actually hear the sound of the OP's bubble bursting.

[jethrodull 0]

Everyone should reread this post, this time with your ear close to your computer monitor. If you're *really* quiet, you can actually hear the sound of the OP's bubble bursting.

funny...I put my ear real close and all I hear is Schnitt...J

[thebottomline 0]

Im not gonna go broke anyways because I know how to manage my money

Planning on multiplying your bankroll by 200 times in 60-odd days doesn't sound like a guy who knows how to manage their money, again, I don't want you to fail, but I'd really like to see this plan.

I deff see what your saying, first for me is famliy then poker then school i usually play around 40-45 hours a week.

Poker over school? You want to make sure you have your education sorted, Poker is far from a guarantee for everyone, a good education is much easier to fall back on.

[GabeTheKid 0]

OP, I'm going to have to say that it's not feasible to reach that goal if you only have 100 right now. If you had 2000, it'd be a different story..to get 100 to 600 playing 5 dollar sit n go's is going to take you in itself probably 2 weeks assuming you're a solid winner. Make amore realistic goal...

[timwakefield 68]

I agree that it seems unlikely, barring some big mtt wins or a sick run in ring games, you'd need to put in like a zillion hours to get a real BR going from $100 just playing sngs. Good luck though.

[pocket_change 0]

OP -- I accept your challenge. However, here's my catch: I'm going to be playing live poker cash games here in Los Angeles. I tried the whole online $50 into $100k thing and I am just not patient enough to play at my home, I lose focus with other stuff and I'm a much better live player due to much more live experience. I'm going to start with $200 though and obviously I won't be able to show records online but I will keep an Excel sheet and keep my blogs updated. I'm going to start tomorrow 6/15/07 and let me know what our final day is. I don't have the advantage of the same bankroll management since the smallest game I can play is a $40 no limit game, but I have the advantage of knowing the players I'm playing with, etc. I have other disadvantages of working a full-time job and playing on six sports teams (three basketball, two softball, one baseball) and rebooting my rap career, but I am looking to take this challenge on more for the discipline that I will have to show then the reality of hitting $200k in two months. If I can run it to $10k I will be ecstatic, but I won't stop there. I will just run from the $40 NL game to the $200 (the $100 is horrible due to the rake) and then to the $400 and the $500 NL min. buy-in no cap. If I am regularly beating the $500 game, I will switch casinos to Commerce where I'll play the higher no limit games, at which point I will probably be in over my head but on a sick enough heater to take them down. The good thing about this is at least it will give each of us a competitive drive to beat the other person. Of course it's nearly impossible that either of us reaches $200k but we have a friendly challenge as to who will make more: the online player or the live cash game player. Let me know what you think and we can possibly link blogs for this challenge. Peace.

[Exodustjs11 0]

OP -- I accept your challenge. However, here's my catch: I'm going to be playing live poker cash games here in Los Angeles. I tried the whole online $50 into $100k thing and I am just not patient enough to play at my home, I lose focus with other stuff and I'm a much better live player due to much more live experience. I'm going to start with $200 though and obviously I won't be able to show records online but I will keep an Excel sheet and keep my blogs updated. I'm going to start tomorrow 6/15/07 and let me know what our final day is. I don't have the advantage of the same bankroll management since the smallest game I can play is a $40 no limit game, but I have the advantage of knowing the players I'm playing with, etc. I have other disadvantages of working a full-time job and playing on six sports teams (three basketball, two softball, one baseball) and rebooting my rap career, but I am looking to take this challenge on more for the discipline that I will have to show then the reality of hitting $200k in two months. If I can run it to $10k I will be ecstatic, but I won't stop there. I will just run from the $40 NL game to the $200 (the $100 is horrible due to the rake) and then to the $400 and the $500 NL min. buy-in no cap. If I am regularly beating the $500 game, I will switch casinos to Commerce where I'll play the higher no limit games, at which point I will probably be in over my head but on a sick enough heater to take them down. The good thing about this is at least it will give each of us a competitive drive to beat the other person. Of course it's nearly impossible that either of us reaches $200k but we have a friendly challenge as to who will make more: the online player or the live cash game player. Let me know what you think and we can possibly link blogs for this challenge. Peace.

You have got yourself A challenge, Im going to be starting on saturday and as far as poker blogs go would you be able to link me to a good place to start one at? as we can update our results regularly on there and on here as well? The ending date will be august 20th. one other possible thing, if we both hit over the 10k mark what would you say of the aruba poker classic in celebration?

[Exodustjs11 0]

OP -- I accept your challenge. However, here's my catch: I'm going to be playing live poker cash games here in Los Angeles. I tried the whole online $50 into $100k thing and I am just not patient enough to play at my home, I lose focus with other stuff and I'm a much better live player due to much more live experience. I'm going to start with $200 though and obviously I won't be able to show records online but I will keep an Excel sheet and keep my blogs updated. I'm going to start tomorrow 6/15/07 and let me know what our final day is. I don't have the advantage of the same bankroll management since the smallest game I can play is a $40 no limit game, but I have the advantage of knowing the players I'm playing with, etc. I have other disadvantages of working a full-time job and playing on six sports teams (three basketball, two softball, one baseball) and rebooting my rap career, but I am looking to take this challenge on more for the discipline that I will have to show then the reality of hitting $200k in two months. If I can run it to $10k I will be ecstatic, but I won't stop there. I will just run from the $40 NL game to the $200 (the $100 is horrible due to the rake) and then to the $400 and the $500 NL min. buy-in no cap. If I am regularly beating the $500 game, I will switch casinos to Commerce where I'll play the higher no limit games, at which point I will probably be in over my head but on a sick enough heater to take them down. The good thing about this is at least it will give each of us a competitive drive to beat the other person. Of course it's nearly impossible that either of us reaches $200k but we have a friendly challenge as to who will make more: the online player or the live cash game player. Let me know what you think and we can possibly link blogs for this challenge. Peace.

You have got yourself A challenge, Im going to be starting on saturday and as far as poker blogs go would you be able to link me to a good place to start one at? as we can update our results regularly on there and on here as well? The ending date will be august 20th. one other possible thing, if we both hit over the 10k mark what would you say of the aruba poker classic in celebration?

[Exodustjs11 0]

OP -- I accept your challenge. However, here's my catch: I'm going to be playing live poker cash games here in Los Angeles. I tried the whole online $50 into $100k thing and I am just not patient enough to play at my home, I lose focus with other stuff and I'm a much better live player due to much more live experience. I'm going to start with $200 though and obviously I won't be able to show records online but I will keep an Excel sheet and keep my blogs updated. I'm going to start tomorrow 6/15/07 and let me know what our final day is. I don't have the advantage of the same bankroll management since the smallest game I can play is a $40 no limit game, but I have the advantage of knowing the players I'm playing with, etc. I have other disadvantages of working a full-time job and playing on six sports teams (three basketball, two softball, one baseball) and rebooting my rap career, but I am looking to take this challenge on more for the discipline that I will have to show then the reality of hitting $200k in two months. If I can run it to $10k I will be ecstatic, but I won't stop there. I will just run from the $40 NL game to the $200 (the $100 is horrible due to the rake) and then to the $400 and the $500 NL min. buy-in no cap. If I am regularly beating the $500 game, I will switch casinos to Commerce where I'll play the higher no limit games, at which point I will probably be in over my head but on a sick enough heater to take them down. The good thing about this is at least it will give each of us a competitive drive to beat the other person. Of course it's nearly impossible that either of us reaches $200k but we have a friendly challenge as to who will make more: the online player or the live cash game player. Let me know what you think and we can possibly link blogs for this challenge. Peace.

You have got yourself A challenge, Im going to be starting on saturday and as far as poker blogs go would you be able to link me to a good place to start one at? as we can update our results regularly on there and on here as well? The ending date will be august 20th. one other possible thing, if we both hit over the 10k mark what would you say of the aruba poker classic in celebration?

[cubsfan44 0]

and rebooting my rap career

made me chuckle.

[stevielarson 0]

Triple postaments.Im in too. Seems its ok to play any form of poker so Im gonna stick with my 45 man SNGs that rog is keen on. Let me know if you guys plan on keeping a blog and stuff. This should be an interesting challenge. I dont think making it is realistic but it gives me something to focus on.

[pocket_change 0]

Just go to www.blogspot.com and start one up, it's really easy. You just have to choose your template..And whoever I made chuckle, I'm glad. If I could make everyone chuckle that easily I'd be in business.I'll be keeping updates on my blog that is listed below...I've already posted it up (the challenge). Feel free to leave comments with blog links or whatever..

[cubsfan44 0]

Just go to www.blogspot.com and start one up, it's really easy. You just have to choose your template..And whoever I made chuckle, I'm glad. If I could make everyone chuckle that easily I'd be in business.

post your rap demo tape, that oughta do the trick.

[pocket_change 0]

post your rap demo tape, that oughta do the trick.

You might want to slow down since you've never even heard anything from me.. and if you have, that's your opinion. You have exactly zero knowledge of me or what I do. It'd be like if you said "I'm marrying a beautiful woman." And I immediately laughed at you and told you to post pictures..as if I had seen her. The point of putting that in my post was that I am spending a significant amount of time on music, thus less time on poker. Thanks.

[cubsfan44 0]

You might want to slow down since you've never even heard anything from me.. and if you have, that's your opinion. You have exactly zero knowledge of me or what I do. It'd be like if you said "I'm marrying a beautiful woman." And I immediately laughed at you and told you to post pictures..as if I had seen her. The point of putting that in my post was that I am spending a significant amount of time on music, thus less time on poker. Thanks.

Post a demo tape then.....Please

[Jeepster80125 0]

You might want to slow down since you've never even heard anything from me.. and if you have, that's your opinion. You have exactly zero knowledge of me or what I do. It'd be like if you said "I'm marrying a beautiful woman." And I immediately laughed at you and told you to post pictures..as if I had seen her. The point of putting that in my post was that I am spending a significant amount of time on music, thus less time on poker. Thanks.

I forget the name of the poster, but he made an FCP theme song called "Ron Mexico is Gay", and it was outstanding. If you look at cubsfan44's posts in this thread, I think you'll agree that it was a light hearted needle at most, for exactly the reasons you speak of, not that he needs anyone defending him.With that said, let's hear some shizzle.