dizzlerock

because i run bad! I just feel with with 4 people in this hand and us not holding a seven its highly likly for someone have a 7 here. I probably shouldnt of said "for sure" just everytime im in this position i see a 7 on the end.

i bet flop and check turn. someones got a 7 here for sure and would guess any lower card that give you nut low probably fills him up.

i think the small turn bet is just a way of villian to see cheap river with something like qq, 1010, maybe backdoor flush draw. Im agree with is probably not plus ev to raise turn, but are we really getting away from this hand. so we either call turn and probably c/c river? If he smooth calls turn i think he is only betting aj or if hes full or fills up. i cant see him having kj dont think he bets qj or 10j. But hey im probably way off. but willing to learn.

agreed. i really dont think we get away from this hand and if we call this flop hits so many hands that might fold to a raise/shove. isnt almost always better to be raising off or money than calling off our money.

I think here i would fold to early in a tourny to make this call.

probably a good fold, i coouldnt do it.

well hopefully some other people will weigh in here. i just think his range is ak, aq, maybe aj, any poket pair 55 and higher. so only one hand here is it close. if you call and lose your still not out and if you call in win i would think its a breeze to a cash.

i would fold here. i cant see him overbetting the river with a hand that is worse than yours. But i do agree if your going to call might as well shove.

i woulda insta call i just think its highly unlikely this in kk or aa. so were are either racing ak or we have them dominted. one other think i raise more PF.

i would have raised the turn and if i got three bet i fold, if he calls i most likey see a free showdown.

Agreed. as played you should also c/bet turn

ty for the response. If this was a tournament do you play it the same?

What size 3-bet do we make it if the button would of folded?

This is probably a leak in my game but i would insta fold. i feel i can find a better spot than this one. My question is if we decide to continue with this hand do we shove. calling got to be the wordt option right?

If your thinking folding to reraise on the rive rhten you should just fold the turn. Does anyone have a problem with just c/c river?

i know im new and probably way off, but with a raise of 1.50 and a call of 1.50 plus blinds the pot holds 3.75 so by making 12-14 arent we just re-raing 4times pot.

I hate your 3bet size PF. I haaaaaaaatttteeee your bet size on the flop. 3bet more PF. Bet at least 12 on the flop. As played, I would c/f the turn.I think this is the correct response. We have to 3 bet more PF. Villian only has to call 6.50 to win 17.00. PF raise should be in the range of 12-14.