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#3673112 2014 Poker Hall Of Fame Nominees - Daniel Heads The List

Posted BigDMcGee on 15 September 2014 - 02:10 PM

View PostVegas Knights, on 15 September 2014 - 01:13 PM, said:

Then you should start

"The Poker Hall of People who could possibly be the best Players (even if they're hermits or jerks)".

Or maybe maybe ya'll should stop pretending that poker is a sport, and do away with silly shit like the poker hall of fame. In sports, there are tangible accomplishments, statistics, ways to measure and judge who was great and who wasn't. The halls of fame aren't always perfect, but at least there are objective ways to judge. Poker is not like that, unless you want to make it strictly a Tournament poker hall of fame.

Like take someone like Phil Hellmuth. Due to his tournament poker (particularly WSOP) success, he likely deserves to be in the poker hall of fame. If "Fame" is the sole criteria, he may likely be the most famous poker player alive. He's in a god damn hardee's commerical in 2014, long after the poker bubble burst. But, I have no idea what his lifetime tournament ROI is, I would guess it's much lower than people suspect, and I have no idea if he's a lifetime winner in cashgames. I do know that any cash game player I've ever heard of, loves having Phil in their game, so I would suspect he's a lifetime loser, unless he gets to play in a lot of juicy amateur games. (and if so, god bless). There's no way to know how much Phil has actually won at poker. If he's a life time loser in cash games, does he truly belong in the hall of fame? If so, then what are we truly commemorating?

So, who gets in? The players who do the best in tournaments but dump all their money in cash games? The players who play in and beat the toughest games in the world? How do we know they beat them? The players who play in juicy rich fish games, in hollywood and elsewhere? The grinders who have supported their families for decades on the game? The most talented cheaters? What is the real criteria?

Because, to me, there is only one goal of poker. Get the money. Everything else is a bunch of narrative based myth making and self promotion. I have way more respect for grinders who have made their steady living for decades, than I do for tournament pros who live off of being staked because they gambling degenerates. Player X may have more pure talent than Player Y, a better "A" Game than player Y, but if Player X is always broke, then what was the point? But Player X is a tournament player with charisma, so he gets in the hall and know one gives a damn about Player Y.

Is the poker hall of fame about the myth making of the poker savants and ambassadors, or is it about the people who won the most money? Since there's no way to know the latter, then I'd argue that it's the former and in which case, it's a bunch of bullshit

#3657826 Hi, What's Everyone Up To?

Posted BigDMcGee on 02 May 2014 - 01:32 PM

View PostDiamondDixie, on 01 May 2014 - 12:26 AM, said:

Pornhub girl on girl FTW!

How did this turn into a porn conversation?

Oh yeah poker is a male dominated sport, thus poker forums are male dominated, thus porn...

Girls watch it too, they just rarely admit it to anyone.

No, they admit to watching it these days, they just don't admit to what they watch. They say "girl on girl" to turn on a (white) male audience, when really it's hard core interracial, which white males are much more uncomfortable with.

#3605311 Poker Dominacano, Anyone?

Posted DiamondDixie on 10 July 2013 - 10:33 PM

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#3569971 Full Tilt Poker Opens For Real Money Nov 6Th 7Am Et

Posted DiamondDixie on 31 October 2012 - 04:26 PM

Looks like heaven to me, ofc look where I've been playing.

#3558222 Win 1% Of My Wsop Main Event Action

Posted looshle on 10 July 2012 - 12:49 PM

Is anyone else interested in that? I know the Neg-o still runs but not something USA players can get in on :/