Monster_Josh 0 Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 It's not Phil's play -at all- not in the slightest, greattt player with a great book for us to read.Phil's problem is he can't genuinely humble himself. If he did that he would win a lottt more Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 Monster Josh, your either trying to rile people up or your related to Hellmuth as I can't see any other plausible explanation for your stance on this. Marion if you like money don't buy Play Poker Like the Pros, simple as that. Phil's style will have you playing too few hands and pushing the wrong ones. What you want to do is mix the Jen Harman section from SS2 along with the Sklansky/2+2 style of play if you plan on playing LHE, that's my recomendationDitto. SSHE to be exact on the 2+2 style.Holdem For Advanced Players(HEFAP) also gives you some very important concepts for your play Link to post Share on other sites
Suited_Up 2 Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 It's not Phil's play -at all- not in the slightest, greattt player with a great book for us to read.Phil's problem is he can't genuinely humble himself. If he did that he would win a lottt moreWow you're so wrong. All poker players are cocky. They just don't announce it all the time. It doesn't affect his play. If it did, they'd all be in trouble. Link to post Share on other sites
Suited_Up 2 Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 Monster Josh, your either trying to rile people up or your related to Hellmuth as I can't see any other plausible explanation for your stance on this. Marion if you like money don't buy Play Poker Like the Pros, simple as that. Phil's style will have you playing too few hands and pushing the wrong ones. What you want to do is mix the Jen Harman section from SS2 along with the Sklansky/2+2 style of play if you plan on playing LHE, that's my recomendationDitto. SSHE to be exact on the 2+2 style.Holdem For Advanced Players(HEFAP) also gives you some very important concepts for your playYeah, for the higher limits... That's one of the few I haven't read yet acutally. But for tourney's I swear by Harrington, until Daniel's comes out. (But of course you need to play your own style a bit) Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 It's not Phil's play -at all- not in the slightest, greattt player with a great book for us to read.Phil's problem is he can't genuinely humble himself. If he did that he would win a lottt morecan you please rephrase this in the Queen's English so we can understand what you just said Link to post Share on other sites
pockets 0 Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 Why do you want to understand? It doesn't matter. He's wrong.. . .Anyone else like pie? Link to post Share on other sites
Monster_Josh 0 Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 Don't read SuperSystems they're flawed, any of the writers of those books catch you trying to use it they'll bust you up for weeks, they know the flaws too.I suggest sticking to Helmuth's book. You will learn how to play the cards, strictly the cards which is what you wanna learn.Hang in there until I write a book about your "attitude at the table" because that's the most important thing. :wink: Link to post Share on other sites
Suited_Up 2 Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 I like pie. Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 Phil has a list of the top ten starting hands huh? I guess it would be pretty tough to figure out the 10 most profitable hands on your own. Might as well go waste your money on the book, and learn how to struggle in tournaments.1. AA2. KK3. QQ4. JJ5. AKsLOOK. I've never seen the list but that's half of it. And I didn't even charge you! BRILLIANT! Link to post Share on other sites
Monster_Josh 0 Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 Prime Example : ( Queens English ). when Devin Degraw(I think that's his name) took out Phil in PL Hold Em game in WSOP.Phil made a comment like "I knew he was gonna suck out on me" -when you have that attitude that's what is gonna happen.Sometimes you can be overly confident too, thinking you're so far ahead in this hand you can't lose - then you do. Link to post Share on other sites
Suited_Up 2 Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 Prime Example : ( Queens English ). when Devin Degraw(I think that's his name) took out Phil in PL Hold Em game in WSOP.Phil made a comment like "I knew he was gonna suck out on me" -when you have that attitude that's what is gonna happen.Sometimes you can be overly confident too, thinking you're so far ahead in this hand you can't lose - then you do.Obviously that's a problemBut his style of play allows the suckouts to happen. Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 Prime Example : ( Queens English ). when Devin Degraw(I think that's his name) took out Phil in PL Hold Em game in WSOP.Phil made a comment like "I knew he was gonna suck out on me" -when you have that attitude that's what is gonna happen.Sometimes you can be overly confident too, thinking you're so far ahead in this hand you can't lose - then you do.or Gavin Griffen Link to post Share on other sites
Suited_Up 2 Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 Prime Example : ( Queens English ). when Devin Degraw(I think that's his name) took out Phil in PL Hold Em game in WSOP.Phil made a comment like "I knew he was gonna suck out on me" -when you have that attitude that's what is gonna happen.Sometimes you can be overly confident too, thinking you're so far ahead in this hand you can't lose - then you do.or Gavin GriffenLMFAO! Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 Why do you want to understand? It doesn't matter. He's wrong.. . .Anyone else like pie?naw, I sorta got what he said, but It was a jumbled mess of words and phrases to the extent he was speaking pidgkin english, and I'm not exactly a hound on usingf properly typed english Link to post Share on other sites
Monster_Josh 0 Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 It's not his style of play that allows the suckouts to happen, I'm 99%certain it's his attitude.An article I'm sure you will find credible http://www.pokerpages.com/articles/archive.../negreanu08.htmHere's a quote from it "I was 21, though, and my ego was huge compared to my poker skills, and that's about the worst combination possible. However, my Vegas trip was such a humbling experience that my ego and poker skills eventually became balanced."I am a Christian and I don't believe anything happens by chance, and I've had wrong attitudes at the table and realize the suckouts happen most when my thinking is flawed. Link to post Share on other sites
Suited_Up 2 Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 Please stop trying... are you his illegitimate son or something?If you don't realize his play is flawed, then you should really do more research then read a few articles online. Watch him play... he slowplays all day long. That allows suckouts. I'm not discounting his attitude sucking too... it's obvious about that. But there is more to it. Link to post Share on other sites
Monster_Josh 0 Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 How about this, you tell me your Party Poker name so I can poker prophecy your stats to see if you have better stats than me. Suited_Up? Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 Suited's in the WPT Championship. Are you? No? OWNED. Link to post Share on other sites
Monster_Josh 0 Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 what episode was he on? Link to post Share on other sites
Suited_Up 2 Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 what episode was he on?I'm going to the championship next monday.See my sig? Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 It's yet to air. He makes the final table and busts danny's AA with 42s LOL Link to post Share on other sites
Monster_Josh 0 Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 Well then I'm routing for you, but about the money... I can't do it. Link to post Share on other sites
allinbluff35 0 Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 How about this, you tell me your Party Poker name so I can poker prophecy your stats to see if you have better stats than me. Suited_Up?Poker prophecy stats are for sitngos, no? Link to post Share on other sites
jack24bauer24 0 Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 It's not his style of play that allows the suckouts to happen, I'm 99%certain it's his attitude.An article I'm sure you will find credible http://www.pokerpages.com/articles/archive.../negreanu08.htmHere's a quote from it "I was 21, though, and my ego was huge compared to my poker skills, and that's about the worst combination possible. However, my Vegas trip was such a humbling experience that my ego and poker skills eventually became balanced."I am a Christian and I don't believe anything happens by chance, and I've had wrong attitudes at the table and realize the suckouts happen most when my thinking is flawed.You don't believe poker cards are delt randomly? Thats an interesting Christian view to take... Link to post Share on other sites
Monster_Josh 0 Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 It's a pretty solid Christian point of view. EVERYTHING that happens is by God's permissive will or perfect will, even down to a 5h falling on the river. Link to post Share on other sites
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