LAS22 0 Posted August 7, 2006 Author Share Posted August 7, 2006 I heard that Dana White is working on Ortiz-Shamrock 3.I'd like to see Tito beat on him some more, but I don't think it does anything to further Tito's career. But it does a ton to bring a light back on Ken, who needs to retire once and for all. Link to post Share on other sites
LAS22 0 Posted August 8, 2006 Author Share Posted August 8, 2006 October 10th on Spike TV is what I just read. That will be nice since I bought the PPV and was not too thrilled with the ending. Link to post Share on other sites
socalpoker_j 1 Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 I'm more interested in the Babalu/Liddell fight, maybe Herb Dean will let the fight go longer this next time around.. Link to post Share on other sites
williskl 0 Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Im glad the third fight will be on spike. I ponied up 40 to watch the ppv and it was definately not worth a one minute fight. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Mr White trying to make nice.that's cool.cards are pretty thin these days trying to do 8 per yr and using the Ultimate fighters from the show. Hey, if you don't win the show, or at least end up in a battle like forrest..what the hell are you doing on a main card? Link to post Share on other sites
LAS22 0 Posted August 14, 2006 Author Share Posted August 14, 2006 Mr White trying to make nice.that's cool.cards are pretty thin these days trying to do 8 per yr and using the Ultimate fighters from the show. Hey, if you don't win the show, or at least end up in a battle like forrest..what the hell are you doing on a main card?Great point! They are giving tv time to a bunch of guys that are mid-level guys at best (and that is not meant with any disrespect). I'd rather watch Hughes, Franklin, Tito, Lidell, etc. than a guy who lost his first fight on TUF. Link to post Share on other sites
dreamcaster 0 Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 I can't wait for OvS3 on Spike. Knowing that Shamrock is so hopeless now-a-days, I hope Tito takes his time in this fight and gives a good show. Link to post Share on other sites
LAS22 0 Posted September 7, 2006 Author Share Posted September 7, 2006 I can't wait for OvS3 on Spike. Knowing that Shamrock is so hopeless now-a-days, I hope Tito takes his time in this fight and gives a good show.Honestly I'd would have rather the UFC give me a refund for the $40 I spent on the last fight. Tito has everything to lose and really nothing to gain from this fight. If he beats him he goes 3-0 against Ken. If he loses, then all the talk will be that their should be a 4th fight.I see Tito by a 2nd round stoppage. Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Honestly I'd would have rather the UFC give me a refund for the $40 I spent on the last fight. Tito has everything to lose and really nothing to gain from this fight. If he beats him he goes 3-0 against Ken. If he loses, then all the talk will be that their should be a 4th fight.I see Tito by a 2nd round stoppage.well, in all honesty, Shamrock was very close to being finished and herb dean was protecting him more then anything. If you watch it on slo mo, then yes, shamrock wasn't really rocked, but in real time, it really looked like shamrock was in a lot of trouble. What many don't know is that shamrock is in extremely awful physical condition from years of pro wrestling and over training because of how many shows that pancrase would run. His neck has been in bad shape for at least 15 years. UFC giving us Tito/Shamrock3 is the next best solution. Its the biggest fight to ever be broadcasted on free tv and is a major step forward for UFC Link to post Share on other sites
LAS22 0 Posted September 7, 2006 Author Share Posted September 7, 2006 well, in all honesty, Shamrock was very close to being finished and herb dean was protecting him more then anything. If you watch it on slo mo, then yes, shamrock wasn't really rocked, but in real time, it really looked like shamrock was in a lot of trouble. What many don't know is that shamrock is in extremely awful physical condition from years of pro wrestling and over training because of how many shows that pancrase would run. His neck has been in bad shape for at least 15 years. UFC giving us Tito/Shamrock3 is the next best solution. Its the biggest fight to ever be broadcasted on free tv and is a major step forward for UFCIt's great from a fan standpoint, I mean what was a PPV main event a few months ago is now being shown for free. But, what does winning do for Tito...nothing, he is expected and supposed to win. I love his quote that "Ken was 3 elbows away from dying." I think Herb Dean did his job and stopped a fight that looked like it could become very dangerous for Ken. Link to post Share on other sites
dreamcaster 0 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 It's great from a fan standpoint, I mean what was a PPV main event a few months ago is now being shown for free. But, what does winning do for Tito...nothing, he is expected and supposed to win. I love his quote that "Ken was 3 elbows away from dying." I think Herb Dean did his job and stopped a fight that looked like it could become very dangerous for Ken.I think it does plenty for Tito in the way of a larger paycheque for future PPV fights. Link to post Share on other sites
LAS22 0 Posted September 7, 2006 Author Share Posted September 7, 2006 I think it does plenty for Tito in the way of a larger paycheque for future PPV fights.Why would beating a guy for the 3rd time do anything for future PPV $. It seems to me like a latteral move instead of a move up. Link to post Share on other sites
dreamcaster 0 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Why would beating a guy for the 3rd time do anything for future PPV $. It seems to me like a latteral move instead of a move up.With the ever growing fan base in the UFC, fighting Shamrock for free on cable television can do nothing but increase Titio's fan base and interest in him (especially if he destroys Ken) for future fights. If Tito becomes a bigger draw for PPV buy rates, he can demand a larger fee for himself to fight. Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Why would beating a guy for the 3rd time do anything for future PPV $. It seems to me like a latteral move instead of a move up.in a word yes. Its all about drawing power, and this is a match that anyone that has a clue knows what the outcome is going to be, but due to both of these guys' hatred for each other, it will still mean something in a sense. I'd be willing to bet that because of this fight, that the UFN that this will be on will overall do over a 3 rating. What it would also do is get more people to see Tito and set up a Tito/Liddell rematch(which Liddell will most likely win) and do record numbers. Shamrock/Tito 2 looks to have done 715K buys and I'd be willing to bet that Liddell/Tito would do close to 1m buys. Only Oscar DeLaHoya matches and wrestlemania do those figures for PPV buys, so UFC doing that would be massive Link to post Share on other sites
LAS22 0 Posted September 7, 2006 Author Share Posted September 7, 2006 in a word yes. Its all about drawing power, and this is a match that anyone that has a clue knows what the outcome is going to be, but due to both of these guys' hatred for each other, it will still mean something in a sense. I'd be willing to bet that because of this fight, that the UFN that this will be on will overall do over a 3 rating. What it would also do is get more people to see Tito and set up a Tito/Liddell rematch(which Liddell will most likely win) and do record numbers. Shamrock/Tito 2 looks to have done 715K buys and I'd be willing to bet that Liddell/Tito would do close to 1m buys. Only Oscar DeLaHoya matches and wrestlemania do those figures for PPV buys, so UFC doing that would be massiveGood points. Honestly I would like to see Tito pound Ken so that his only career option is to go back to the WWE and become Ken Shamrock...The World's Most Dangerous Man again Link to post Share on other sites
dreamcaster 0 Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Good points. Honestly I would like to see Tito pound Ken so that his only career option is to go back to the WWE and become Ken Shamrock...The World's Most Dangerous Man again His ring rages where hilarious! Link to post Share on other sites
LAS22 0 Posted September 7, 2006 Author Share Posted September 7, 2006 His ring rages where hilarious!I can still remember him doing those and laughing like crazy. I was always amazed that a legit fighter would do WWE. I'm sure he got paid well for making a fool of himself. Link to post Share on other sites
dreamcaster 0 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 I can still remember him doing those and laughing like crazy. I was always amazed that a legit fighter would do WWE. I'm sure he got paid well for making a fool of himself.After Tito beats him again, the only wrestling contract he'll be able to get is with TNA. Link to post Share on other sites
LAS22 0 Posted September 8, 2006 Author Share Posted September 8, 2006 After Tito beats him again, the only wrestling contract he'll be able to get is with TNA.And the infamous 6-sided ring! Maybe he can work for some of the indy shows that wrestle in high school gyms and VFW Halls. Link to post Share on other sites
fckthis 0 Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Maybe shamrock likes getting his *** kicked on PPV. Like its some sick obsession. Link to post Share on other sites
LAS22 0 Posted September 9, 2006 Author Share Posted September 9, 2006 Maybe shamrock likes getting his *** kicked on PPV. Like its some sick obsession.Could be...but in all fairness Ken had a great run. But his run is over and it's time for him to end his fighting career. If he hangs on too long (and may already have) his legacy will be that of a guy who didn't know when to say enough was enough. Link to post Share on other sites
dreamcaster 0 Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 may already haveHe has. Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteSpade 0 Posted September 9, 2006 Share Posted September 9, 2006 And the infamous 6-sided ring!closer to an octagon than a standard ring is Link to post Share on other sites
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