dredubble 0 Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 At the end of a session last night, I had this hand come up...Looking for critizism or reinforcement on anything you think I didnt do well or vice versa! Thanks! PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cxBB ($111.65)UTG ($70.25)MP ($114.15)CO ($133.50)Hero ($112.35)SB ($49.90)Preflop: Hero is Button with 6:club:, 7:club:. UTG calls $1, 2 folds, Hero calls $1, SB raises to $4, 1 fold, UTG folds, Hero calls $3.Flop: ($10) 8 : heart:, 7:heart:, 5:club: (2 players)SB bets $3, Hero raises to $9, SB raises to $15, Hero calls $6.Turn: ($40) Q : club: (2 players)SB bets $4, Hero calls $4.River: ($48) 6 : heart: (2 players)SB bets $26.9 (All-In).Dredubble either calls or folds ???-read on villain is incomplete as I am at a new table.... Link to post Share on other sites
pokerplayer24 0 Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 Easy fold, if it wasn't a heart it might be closer. Link to post Share on other sites
Petoria 0 Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 Definitely fold. Without a read, calling isn't good. Link to post Share on other sites
Jordan 1 Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 I call.He either raised AK/AQ/KK/AA/QQ/JJ outta the blinds.QQ has you, the rest don't.Unless he has AKh.I don't see him having AQh here due to his turn bet.- Jordan Link to post Share on other sites
Bubba83 0 Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 On a side note, does everyone like our flop raise? Link to post Share on other sites
Petoria 0 Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 On a side note, does everyone like our flop raise?Definitely a good raise on the flop. Link to post Share on other sites
dredubble 0 Posted April 11, 2006 Author Share Posted April 11, 2006 On the flop raise, I was hoping to get check turn from a-k, was this bad given range of hands included premium pairs where I could get reraised? Do you call flop and either hit or get out? Do you reraise smallish turn bet? Link to post Share on other sites
nomad_monad 0 Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 I call.He either raised AK/AQ/KK/AA/QQ/JJ outta the blinds.QQ has you, the rest don't.Unless he has AKh.I don't see him having AQh here due to his turn bet.- Jordan Link to post Share on other sites
nomad_monad 0 Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 On the flop raise, I was hoping to get check turn from a-k, was this bad given range of hands included premium pairs where I could get reraised? Do you call flop and either hit or get out? Do you reraise smallish turn bet?I like the flop raise. With so many outs, even if you do get re-raised by a pocket pair, it's still hard for him to price you out even if you re-open the betting. Plus, before all that flop action indicated otherwise, it's more likely for him to be holding unpaired big cards, so you could win right there.On the turn, I think I like just calling and taking what essentially amounts to a free card. The Q is more likely to have helped the villain than you, plus I don't know how much fold equity you have at this point, even though the villain isn't pot committed yet. This brings me to another point: the villain isn't committed and any reasonable turn raise that he probably calls likely commits him and I don't think you want that. The reason is because if you don't get him committed, if your draw whiffs on the river you still have a chance to make a stab at it by representing a different draw (heart flush draw). Plus, all your club redraw outs will likely get paid on the river if they hit (runner runner being far more deceptive than a four flush flop), so I don't think you need to worry about further building the pot on the turn in case that draw hits. Just my $.02 Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 My initial reaction is to call. Looks like the guy has an overpair. You rarely see the bet/min-RR line from overcards or drawing hands. That said...You guys know what hand I'm worried about that you guys haven't listed? 99 Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 This is a tough onehe could have pocket 9s or flopped a set of 5s maybe QQ but if he has this then he horribly misplayed the turn these are the hands i see beating us along with a higher busted flush draw which is possible.so thus i pay this off all day I really think villain has JJ or TT with a club Link to post Share on other sites
spikymarv99 0 Posted April 11, 2006 Share Posted April 11, 2006 Push on the turn Link to post Share on other sites
dredubble 0 Posted April 12, 2006 Author Share Posted April 12, 2006 Thanks for all input....As it turned out, aggression on the turn (reraise) might have changed the outcome of the hand. Villain had A-k hearts and rivered a flush....I called his all in bet thinking I had aces and kings beat...Lost pot of course. Results based thinking is bad, but in retrospect I think had I pushed hard on turn I could have made him fold. On the other hand, I might have only pot commited myself for river bet (which I obv. called regardless). Are we ok calling preflop??-Dre Link to post Share on other sites
Jordan 1 Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 lol @ me. looking back, his turn play was pretty donkish. He bought himself a free card basically.....had he bet the turn harder though you probably fold...funny how things work out.I really think in the long run at this limit making this call is ok...But I'm a super donk. And proud.- Jordan Link to post Share on other sites
Scott3705 0 Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 some one's a donk or caught a 3rd queen on the turn.... as for the rest....With on limper Raise preflop on the button, then bet, push the flop. Link to post Share on other sites
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