Aaxx

[benhoug 0]

Without a doubt the hand I've lost the most money with in all forms of poker is AAXX in PL Omaha. I realize that no hand is a HUGE favorite in Omaha (as opposed to Hold 'em) and I also realize that AA83 no suits is much weaker than AAJ10 double-suited, so I play accordingly, but I'm still having trouble with this hand. I think I'm playing it right, but I can't seem to RE-RAISE enough before the flop to get people to fold the hands that bust me. It's almost like unless I flop to a set, and sometimes even then, AAXX is a weak hand. How can this be???Anyone have thoughts/opinions???

[JacKingOff_suit 0]

It depends on your positions, numbers of players, and the stack sizes.In EPs even MPs it's a drawing hand so it's only good for limping, if you get raised then it's OK to pot it back if your stack is not deep or you don't have an army of callers behind you. If no one raises then a lot of times the AAxx hand goes quietly in the muck unless the board suits your hand fine or it's something like 26Jr then you can pot it and see the reactions.In LPs though it's a made hand I will pot it everytime preflop and go from there.I don't get excited having AAxx. I get excited if a deep-stacked UTG pot it preflop and I am on the button, then I will call it with any hands.

[greatwhite 0]

I think that its correct to raise with aces preflop. However, I think you need to find a nice spot. You never want to have half your chips in the pot with aces. You want to committ a small portion. Aces are a hand where you either want 15% of your chips in or 100%. With pretty much every other hand in omaha you only want to committ 15%. At least I do. I want to see a flop most of the time. You don't want to have 50% of your chips in preflop, because it's a tough hand to play postflop. Not only that, but people put you on aces. I think sometimes it's correct to minimum reraise with aces so it only puts like 20% of your chips in. Now if they reraise you you can move all in.

[srblan 0]

Don't raise with it out of position, and if you are going to raise with it, you better raise with other hands too. I love nothing more than a player in my game whose raise always signals aces. I just won a $95 pot against a guy who raised with aces preflop, then made a small bet on the flop where I had a wrap. I made my hand on the turn, bet out half the pot, and he called. Gin came for me on the river, an ace. I made a big bet (it amounted to about 3/4 of his remaining stack) which I never could have made if he hadn't told me his hand. He thought for a while, called out what my hand was, and then called anyway.I don't like preflop raises very much in PLO because I feel like most of the time I make good postflop decisions. Yes, I don't necessarily win as much as when the pot gets big, but I don't lose as much when I don't improve. I probably miss out on a small amount of value, but I rarely raise preflop. I play my draws fast, but a preflop raise with a big pair makes a turn call with a set wrong if your only redraw is a boat and an obvious danger card pops off.In SS2, Lyle Berman recommends reraising with aces preflop only if you can get 3/4 of your stack into the pot. I think the idea is that once you get that much into the pot, no matter what the board comes.

[dingas 0]

People read Phil Hellmuth's book and get the idea that AAxx is a great hand. They read that they should try to get all in pre-flop, not realizing that there are virtually no situations where this is possible, since this is a pot-limit game. But, people say, I'll raise the max and go all in on the flop, not realizing that by doing so, you are giving your opponents good implied odds by declaring what you have.You certainly should not get excited if you have AA83 off suit UTG -- just muck it.You shouldn't make big raises out of position in this game. With a good hand like AK10A double suited, you can make a small raise from early position, or just limp in, hoping someone will raise, so that you can come over the top. But if you limp and no one raises, that's fine too, because you can get out cheap if you don't have a favourable flop. In position, you can raise with a wide variety of hands to disguise your play. Sometimes you'll have high cards, and sometimes you'll have 6789 but either way you'll usually pick up the pot when the flop is A 9 4 rainbow. Or if you get 5 preflop callers, you don't mind that either, because your starting hands will hopefully be better than average, and you welcome the dead money from people with 229J.This is a game of situations, not cards. So if six people limp in front of you and you have AA98 single suited, you have to decide whether to raise to knock people out and make it more likely that you'll win with your pair of aces, or to call and try to win a big pot if you hit the flop hard. THERE IS NO RIGHT ANSWER. It all depends on which situation you feel more comfortable in, and you feel is more profitable for you.At least at the low limits, pre-flop play is almost irrelevant in this game. You will win or lose based on the decisions you make post-flop.

[JacKingOff_suit 0]

http://www.playwinningpoker.com/omaha/pot-limit/There were a few paragraphs discussed playing AAxx. I found PLO is much more profitable than any other forms of poker, including my favorite, plo8. I am migrating to plo... There's also another way to play AAxx.Buy in short (40-50BBs) to cut the others' implied odds. Go to another table when you hit ~200BBs.

[David_Nicoson 1]

It's almost like unless I flop to a set, and sometimes even then, AAXX is a weak hand. How can this be???Anyone have thoughts/opinions???

Why doubt your experience? AAxx isn't all that.