MikeJohnson724 0 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Obviously there is luck in poker, but I am wondering how much luck would you say is involved with tournament poker in general? Recently, I have been consistently getting into the top 20-15%, as we know, usually the top 10% pays. I recently took second in a 90 man sit n go when I started getting some great hands, then got sucked out on heads up.I was also wondering some of everyones tournament results. How often do you cash? What percentage do you feel towards the end of the tournaments are luck?Thanks guys/gals. Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 If you see my luck lying around, please return it to me. Skill is currently not enough. Link to post Share on other sites
doublemeup 0 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Poker=75% skill + 25% luck Link to post Share on other sites
rog 0 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Not this again. It all depends on the sample size. If you're talking infinite, then luck has no impact. If you're talking a single event, luck is the only factor. Everything else is shades of grey. Link to post Share on other sites
turd ferguson 1 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Not this again. It all depends on the sample size. If you're talking infinite, then luck has no impact. If you're talking a single event, luck is the only factor. Everything else is shades of grey.This would be a good description if you didn't deal in absolutes. Link to post Share on other sites
stealfromblind 0 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Poker=75% skill + 25% luckthe most retardedest thing i've heard all day... Link to post Share on other sites
GoCryWolfe 0 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 the most retardedest thing i've heard all day... You were saying? Most retardest? How Ironic. Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 if you are a good player and play well after 1000 of them you will make money, it is the play well for 1000 of them that is the hard part. Link to post Share on other sites
stealfromblind 0 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 You were saying? Most retardest? How Ironic.you are now in the same group with doublemeup... Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Poker=75% skill + 25% luckum no Link to post Share on other sites
ShakeZuma 585 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 duuuuhhh you guys are so stupid, omg, its all luck, omg!!!!blah blah blah Link to post Share on other sites
turd ferguson 1 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 You were saying? Most retardest? How Ironic.Straight over your head. Link to post Share on other sites
Jordan 1 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 the more poker I play the more i realize the skill it takes to be a long time winner.short term anything can happen.- Jordan Link to post Share on other sites
The Bwaves 0 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Straight over your head.I thought it was funny.You have to play a lot of tournaments to figure out if your skilled enough to be a winning player. Link to post Share on other sites
chrozzo 19 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Luck is when preparation meets opportunity. ~Phil Gordon Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Luck is when preparation meets opportunity. ~Phil Gordonummm I am pretty sure Thomas Jefferson said it first but what the hell Link to post Share on other sites
chrozzo 19 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 ummm I am pretty sure Thomas Jefferson said it first but what the hellHe probably did, but I read it in the Phil Gor on interview in cardplayer. lol Link to post Share on other sites
zimmer4141 0 Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 One tournament= 95% Luck, 5% Skill25 Tournaments= 70% Luck, 30% Skill50 Tournaments= 50% Luck, 50% Skill100 Tournaments= 30% Luck, 70% Skill500+ is 5% Luck, 95% Skill Link to post Share on other sites
Mandelbrot 0 Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 Luck is overwhelmingly the biggest factor compared to skill, but skill gives you an enormous edge.Here is a good exerpt from an article on gambling law and why - at least in a legal sense - poker is considered more of a game of chance than one of skill: For the time being, however, the law is such that poker is not a game in which the elements of skill predominate over chance. The time frame over which the elements that constitute skill in poker work to allow the more skilled player to “obtain more frequent rewards” is both uncertain and too lengthy.Consider that on any one hand of poker it cannot seriously be contended that skill outweighs chance. Also, the results of any given session of poker (one night, one tournament, etc.) are not likely to be determined based on the preponderant skill of any given player. Perhaps the result of playing many sessions for a whole year is indicative of skill predominating over chance. But, perhaps not. Poker "player of the year" awards have become popular over the past few years. No one has ever repeated as the winner from one year to the next. Indeed few repeat in the top ten of those lists from one year to the next. You can read the full article here. Mandelbrot Link to post Share on other sites
chrozzo 19 Posted February 25, 2006 Share Posted February 25, 2006 Theres no need for luck, better players just get better cards, its that simple. Link to post Share on other sites
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