30-1 on the flop (no joke)

[Actuary 3]

lets put in a worse case here.It capped 3-way on the flop.Pot excluding your bets: 37, so you are getting 9:1 more Reasonable Possibility:Flop is 3 bet, 4 way29+9= 38:3 or about 12.6 : 1It's draw heavy and overs are really dirty.I call one at a time and hope it stops.Rationale kinda goes out in 15 BB pots on the preflop*** read replies ****I call 2 back to me as long as 3 others are in....yeeah..right, like I could fold this.I have to see that turn!

[RISEorFall 0]

ok general consensus is call, i convinced myself and actuary backed up calling 2 more back to us. so:FCP 10 handedRISE is MP1 with A Q :club:PF: UTG limps, UTG+1 raises, UTG+2 calls, RISE 3-bets, MP2 caps, MP3 calls, 3 folds, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, RISE callsFlop:(29 SB) 2 5 :diamond:6 :diamond:UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 bets, RISE calls, 1 fold, MP3 raises, BB calls, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, RISE callsTurn:(18.5 BB) 7 BB checks, UTG+1 bets, RISE calls, MP3 raises, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, RISE...enough equity here to 3-bet? or just call hoping to hit the last runner?

[Actuary 3]

just callyou are 4.1 : 1 to hit flushawesome flop.PR capper folds for 2 bets, PR limpers/cold callers are betting and raisngthats about as good as you can get on the flop, lots of dead money, and just 2 more bets to call, 4 handedthen on turn the pfr wakes up again.

[nrs02004 0]

so who other than me raises this flop? I'm thinking... HOLY SHIT THAT POT IS HUGE!! RAISE RAISE RAISE RAISE RAISE.I bet if aseem was here he would agree with me... I think raising cleans up an out maybe 2... and If you do raise it's less likely to get 3 bet behind you?cmon...what would ron mexico do?

[RISEorFall 0]

i seriously doubt youre folding overs in this pot. would be nice, but it aint happenin

[CobaltBlue 662]

If we had one more in the pot, we could 3-bet the turn, right?

[Briguy 0]

so who other than me raises this flop? I'm thinking... HOLY censored THAT POT IS HUGE!! RAISE RAISE RAISE RAISE RAISE.I bet if aseem was here he would agree with me... I think raising cleans up an out maybe 2... and If you do raise it's less likely to get 3 bet behind you?cmon...what would ron mexico do?

What outs are you cleaning up? I seriously doubt that AA, KK, QQ, or AK are folding to two cold with 30+ bets in the pot.Just call the turn. Spike the club and tilt the table. Poker can be fun!

[Actuary 3]

Cobalt, yeah, I would, generally. (not sure about facing someone with 2 cold if they haven't bet/called yet)nrs02004,if we had KQ/QJ raising would make more sense on the flop.

[RISEorFall 0]

the rest of the hand played out like this if anyone cares....RISE is MP1 with A Q :club:PF: UTG limps, UTG+1 raises, UTG+2 calls, RISE 3-bets, MP2 caps, MP3 calls, 3 folds, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, RISE callsFlop:(29 SB) 2 5 :diamond:6 :diamond:UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 bets, RISE calls, 1 fold, MP3 raises, BB calls, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, RISE callsTurn:(18.5 BB) 7 :club:BB checks, UTG+1 bets, RISE calls, MP3 raises, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, RISE callsRiver:(26.5BB) 10 BB checks, UTG checks, RISE checks, MP3 bets, BB folds, UTG calls, RISE raises, MP3 calls, UTG callsfinal pot: 32.5 BBRISE shows A Q MP3 mucks 8 9 UTG mucks Q Q that's right, MP3 called 4 cold with 89off....

[Actuary 3]

I don't like the river check.way to hit that bdfd!

[RISEorFall 0]

i knew someone was gonna say that....you really dont think MP3 is betting after he raises both the flop and the turn?if i bet and he raises it's probably folding the others. if i c/r and he 3 bets ive trapped them for a few extra bets.

[Actuary 3]

in a pot that big I don't see anyone folding for 2 that calls 1.He might fear the flush against 3 others and shut down.He also may not raise for fear of the flush and you get an overcall or two.He might raise, you get an over call, and you 3-bet for 6 BB total profit... who knows, for me, i fear a shut down by my opponet when the flush hits.

[RISEorFall 0]

not after he's raised the flop and the turn. if i had the FD on the flop, yes. since it was backdoor, it's less obvious. it looks like we just have overpairs and overcards.if he has 2 pair or better, I think he bets this river 90% of the time.