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In a tournament easy laydown, in a cash game, maybe...since you're in a cash game, i hope you find this post useful...:club:
What???How about the complete opposite.Easy call in both situations... especially if you're assuming in a tournament it's a short stack making this play against your normal stack.
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There was $10 in preflop.After your $5 bet and what he would have to call before making his all in bet, there is $20 in the pot. That leaves him with $27. You're getting paid slightly less than 2:1. Even if most of your straight draws are no good (which they almost always are, this is a rare exception), you're still not in terrible shape. Considering the range of hands that you could have expected him to have, it was a bad fold.

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You're 40% to win against KJ without the K of spades. With it, you're 35%. Against top pair top kicker (without a high spade), you're the 55% favorite. With the high spade, you're even money. Against a set, you are 40% to win.

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In a cash game I probably would have called. You can assume that he made a hand with an all-in bet, however, typical play for ameture players is to protect their hand with such a potentially dangerous flop. It wasn't bad to lay down, however it wouldn't be a horrible call. If this was a online game he probably played it right since so many people will play suited cards regarless if they are connectors. You made the right lay down since you were only about 36% to win. However if he had only 2 paired you were more like 50% to win or if he had only spiked top pair in most cases you would have been about 60% to win. Making the lay down and getting involved in another hand with him may be the best move. If you can make some solid reads on what he might have before you call or fold then you can better make these descsions. However, you would have been paying a lot of money to try and win about half the all-in bet. If you had pot odds to call this of course would be a different story.

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I don't like the five dollar bet. This is a bet that is very unlikely to win whats in the middle, considering the texture of the flop and how many people saw it. Since you were under the gun, you could possibly check your big draw and watch the action happen in front of you. If you are the type of player who is capable of folding your draw(Don't sweat, there is a pretty good chance I would have layed it down as well)Here is what this accomplishes:If you are up against a made hand, in this case a straight:He might make a relatively small bet figuring that his hand is unbeatable at the moment. He certainly would not bet all-in if it had been checked to him. Say he makes that small bet, its also possible that people behind him might call with top pair, middle pair or hands that have little to no chance to win the pot. This gets more money and more opponents into the pot which is exactly what I want when I'm playing a drawing hand.

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I wouldnt say that it was a soft table.  I think that they play may be a lot slower than a lot of other casinos.  Keep in mind though it is a buy in of 100 no more no less.
really?? this sounds like poo poo mcmuffins to me, i've never heard of a cash table that only allows 1 exact buy in with no min-max.usually you should be able to buy in anywhere from 100 - 200 with 1/2 blinds.
I play at a crazy live 1-2 nl game that has a 100 min and 500 max buy in.
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I wouldnt say that it was a soft table.  I think that they play may be a lot slower than a lot of other casinos.  Keep in mind though it is a buy in of 100 no more no less.
really?? this sounds like poo poo mcmuffins to me, i've never heard of a cash table that only allows 1 exact buy in with no min-max.usually you should be able to buy in anywhere from 100 - 200 with 1/2 blinds.
Foxwoods, for one. They've never allowed a larger buy in for 1/2.
so what you're saying is foxwoods makes you buy in for 100 and 100 only?..this is what i do not understand, like the whole idea of a minimum and maximum is thrown aside?I understand no larger buy in, but do you not see the OP said you have to buy in for 100 and 100 only
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I wouldnt say that it was a soft table.  I think that they play may be a lot slower than a lot of other casinos.  Keep in mind though it is a buy in of 100 no more no less.
really?? this sounds like poo poo mcmuffins to me, i've never heard of a cash table that only allows 1 exact buy in with no min-max.usually you should be able to buy in anywhere from 100 - 200 with 1/2 blinds.
I play at a crazy live 1-2 nl game that has a 100 min and 500 max buy in.
ya, sounds good. i played a 1/3 table with no max buy in.. woopie doo.but the OP said it was a 100 buy in., no more no less. meaning they have no minimum or maximum, its strictly 100. that sounds odd to me.
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I wouldnt say that it was a soft table.  I think that they play may be a lot slower than a lot of other casinos.  Keep in mind though it is a buy in of 100 no more no less.
really?? this sounds like poo poo mcmuffins to me, i've never heard of a cash table that only allows 1 exact buy in with no min-max.usually you should be able to buy in anywhere from 100 - 200 with 1/2 blinds.
I play at a crazy live 1-2 nl game that has a 100 min and 500 max buy in.
ya, sounds good. i played a 1/3 table with no max buy in.. woopie doo.but the OP said it was a 100 buy in., no more no less. meaning they have no minimum or maximum, its strictly 100. that sounds odd to me.
This card room is only 8 months old or so. It didnt even have no limit until about 2 months ago. I actually like the game, it makes the fish who are playing the no fold em 3/6 game try out the NL game. "How different can it actually be"If you get a table that has been running the whole day you will see people will really big stacks and the game gets pretty lively.
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Ok so $8 preflop, plus $5 after the flop= $13. You have to put in $32 to win $45. Right? You are getting about 1.4 to 1 here so I think this would be a good call.

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