jasonmason 0 Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 Pokerstars players cash for a total of $7,423,905 in the main event.I'm not sure about the exact amount of Pokerstars qualifiers but I believe it was above 1,100...That the 'great players' from Pokerstars have put in a little less then 3.5 million Link to post Share on other sites
Kendren 1 Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 Pokerstars players cash for a total of $7,423,905 in the main event.I'm not sure about the exact amount of Pokerstars qualifiers but I believe it was above 1,100...That the 'great players' from Pokerstars have put in a little less then 3.5 million*tugs sleeve*WTFAYTA??? :shock: Link to post Share on other sites
jasonmason 0 Posted July 16, 2005 Author Share Posted July 16, 2005 I mean that 1,100 people bought in for 10 grand apeice = At least $11.1 millionCashed for $7.5 milliondown 3.5 million Link to post Share on other sites
Nutcracker 0 Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 So you're saying that a bunch of people who qualified for the wsop me in online satellites lost money collectively? I'm totally shocked. (sw) Link to post Share on other sites
Kendren 1 Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 I mean that 1,100 people bought in for 10 grand apeice = At least $11.1 millionCashed for $7.5 milliondown 3.5 million*blink*Good point. My apologies. I was doing the math incorrectly. Link to post Share on other sites
kfernandez 0 Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 Well the real winner is Pokerstars. Link to post Share on other sites
mcpickl 0 Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 did pokerstasrs announce how much their players cashed for? Link to post Share on other sites
LAPoker 0 Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 I cashed for $0, but the bag they gave me was worth more than the $15 entry fee so I am still ahead. Link to post Share on other sites
CodyHartman 0 Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 Well the real winner is Pokerstars.This is the truth by far. I'd bet Pokerstars made over 3.5 million from their entries. I don't know there qualifying system, but if there are entry chip satsi nto ME qualifiers. Every step puts another vig on the player. Add it all up, I'd bet it would be shocking. Link to post Share on other sites
HarryDemetriou 0 Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 That's an interesting figure and roughly equivalent to what The Rio took out for the staff and themselves from the main event alone.ie $3,371,400$1123800 for Staff$2247600 for themselvesBased on 5619 players. Link to post Share on other sites
vortex336 0 Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 That's an interesting figure and roughly equivalent to what The Rio took out for the staff and themselves from the main event alone.ie $3,371,400$1123800 for Staff$2247600 for themselvesBased on 5619 players.Whoa! Subject change at 12 o'clock!Just kidding, Harry. That definitely is a pretty astounding figure. Link to post Share on other sites
CodyHartman 0 Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 That's an interesting figure and roughly equivalent to what The Rio took out for the staff and themselves from the main event alone.ie $3,371,400$1123800 for Staff$2247600 for themselvesBased on 5619 players.Yeah, and the tournaments are supposed to be catered to "take care" of the players. How many times during the WSOP did you hear the tournament staff say that they wanted to make sure the players were happy, and they were listening to and trying to make small changes. Yet players have been complaining for years about the percentage of money taken out of entry fees and the vig is riduclulosly high.It doesn't add up.Thanks Harry for the numbers. Link to post Share on other sites
HarryDemetriou 0 Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 Perhaps I'm not being totally fair to The Rio.I didn't allow for the $56190 worth of comp vouchers they gave us ($10 each) so we could feed ourselves in the dinner break they kindly reinstated on the first day in which we played.Incidentally I sent a very long letter (about eight A4 pages long) outlining my concerns and complaints to Howard Greenbaum (cc to Richard Daly) which has been acknowledged and to which I eagerly await a reply. He has asked for time to consider the points rasied and to provide an appropriate response.On receipt of the reply I shall post the full letter along with the response to selected internet poker forums including this one. Link to post Share on other sites
Dixie Wrecked 0 Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 Harry, I know it's a long list but what are some of the major issues they should address immediately and remedy even before planning for next year? Link to post Share on other sites
HarryDemetriou 0 Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 Harry, I know it's a long list but what are some of the major issues they should address immediately and remedy even before planning for next year?I personally believe that the single greatest thing that the organizers should do before next years event is to agree to form a consultation comittee whereby players, dealers, organizers, tv reps, sponsors etc etc are all involved in having a say as to how things are run.In other words set up a group of interested people to discuss the best way forward for The WSOP and poker in general.As and when I get a reply this can be brought up in a seperate thread as this is not the appropriate thread for it and it would be much better to discuss it seperately as I feel it's too big and important a subject to be discussed tucked away here. Link to post Share on other sites
jasonmason 0 Posted July 17, 2005 Author Share Posted July 17, 2005 What..My thread isn't important??!? Thanks harry that is actually very concerning and I await your response as I intend to be a major player at the WSOP next year. Link to post Share on other sites
Marchione 0 Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 20% of all players came from pokerstars ~ kinda shocking, but on the flip side not......I hope PS pays MoneyMaker very well ~!! Link to post Share on other sites
CodyHartman 0 Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 Perhaps I'm not being totally fair to The Rio.I didn't allow for the $56190 worth of comp vouchers they gave us ($10 each) so we could feed ourselves in the dinner break they kindly reinstated on the first day in which we played. Not to sound rude or ungreatful, but a $10 food voucher, compared to their take from ME entries, is not much at all. This voucher gives the players a chance to buy overpriced food, which probably cost The Rio somewhere between $1 to $1.50 in food and labor cost. So it may seem like a kind gesture, but its still quite small in relation to the total cost of the tourney to their take.Co-D Link to post Share on other sites
pokerloser 0 Posted July 17, 2005 Share Posted July 17, 2005 Did your letter include, more freaking bathrooms!!! I could barely get their and get back with the crowds in the normal break periods. I finally gave up trying and would go during active play to beat the crowd rush. It was miserable, and having to leave your table during play was not my idea of well organized.Thanks for your posts Harry. Link to post Share on other sites
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