mrdannyg 274 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 I think Doan can be a top-6 player. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Haha, I almost did, but decided it wouldn't be wise. You can thank your lucky stars I'm sober.LOL Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 thats awesome.to play devils advocate, at first glance, I thought it was a lot to pay him, but Im guessing the short term had something to do with that. Im hoping like Adam said, they will regret not signing him for another 10years. wedding, then this. awesome.Or: this, then prenup, then wedding. awesome.Congratulations to your family, Dave. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I think Doan wants to stay in Phoenix 100% but is waiting to get some sort of idea on direction of the team.If there is a guarantee Phoenix isnt moving then he will stay IMO. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 This seems nutsJohn Gambadoro@Gambo620NHL source just confirmed to me that an Eastern Conference team has offered Coyotes Captain Shane Doan a 4-year deal worth more than 30 mill Link to post Share on other sites
Fubar The Sperm 1 Posted July 14, 2012 Author Share Posted July 14, 2012 This seems nutsJohn Gambadoro@Gambo620NHL source just confirmed to me that an Eastern Conference team has offered Coyotes Captain Shane Doan a 4-year deal worth more than 30 millThat has Islanders or Rangers written all over it. Link to post Share on other sites
dEv~ 19 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Capitials re-sign Green to 3-year contract - http://sports.yahoo.com/news/capitials-sign-green-3-contract-194930403--nhl.htmlNice headline yahoo. Green at 6+ milliion per is less than what he could have gotten if injuries haven't taken it's toll the last couple years. I for one would blame the scooter. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 This is amazing:Potential Landing Spots for Doan Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Shea Weber signs offer sheet with The Flyershttp://blogs.thescor...g-is-happening/http://oilersnation.com/2012/7/19/shea-weber-signs-14-year-offer-sheet-with-philadelphia Link to post Share on other sites
Fubar The Sperm 1 Posted July 19, 2012 Author Share Posted July 19, 2012 Shea Weber signs offer sheet with The Flyershttp://blogs.thescor...g-is-happening/http://oilersnation.com/2012/7/19/shea-weber-signs-14-year-offer-sheet-with-philadelphia I guess he wants to stay in Nashville. He has to know they will match. What would the compensation be 3 first round picks? Link to post Share on other sites
Fubar The Sperm 1 Posted July 19, 2012 Author Share Posted July 19, 2012 Found this:$6,268,176 to $7,835,219 Two first-round picks and a second- and third-round pick. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 I guess he wants to stay in Nashville. He has to know they will match. What would the compensation be 3 first round picks?$26 Million balloon payment in the first year though which Nashville might not be able to handle. Link to post Share on other sites
Fubar The Sperm 1 Posted July 19, 2012 Author Share Posted July 19, 2012 $26 Million balloon payment in the first year though which Nashville might not be able to handle.Yea but if they match they can still trade him for a better return. Probably get 2 first's, a prospect and decent roster player. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Yea but if they match they can still trade him for a better return. Probably get 2 first's, a prospect and decent roster player.If they match they can't trade him for at least one year I believe. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Compensation for Weber could be 4 1st round picks since the value is the average of the first 5 years of the contract.10.4 Draft Choice Compensation for Restricted Free AgentsAny Club that is entitled to but does not exercise its Right of First Refusal pursuant to Section 10.3 shall be entitled to obtain Draft Choice Compensation from the New Club. The number and quality of draft choices due to the Prior Club shall be based on the average annual value of the compensation contained in the Principal Terms (as defined in Section 10.3(e) hereof) of the New Club's Offer Sheet (determined by dividing such compensation by the lesser of the number of years of the Offer Sheet or five)http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2012/6/26/3117738/2012-13-NHL-Restricted-Free-Agencyrfa-compensation-table-offer-sheets Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Holy crap 14 years. Link to post Share on other sites
Fubar The Sperm 1 Posted July 19, 2012 Author Share Posted July 19, 2012 If they match they can't trade him for at least one year I believe.Oh yea. I think that's true. But they could trade his rights To another team who matches the offer. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Oh yea. I think that's true. But they could trade his rights To another team who matches the offer.I'm pretty sure once the offer sheet is signed they only have 2 options.1. Match it and live with the trade restriction2. Don't match it and get the draft pick compensationThey can't trade his rights once the offer sheet has been signed. Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Stupid offer-sheet IMO...too much term, too much money. Nashville would be positively foolish to match. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Frank Seravalli@DNFlyersSpending $26M in one calendar yr, NSH would be forking over 16% of entire franchise net worth ($163M in '11 accd to Forbes) to match offerDown Goes Brown@DownGoesBrownFlyers sign a player to an offer sheet that's front-loaded. Should have done it right before Christmas for the Brian Burke ethical hattrick Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Does seem crazy. Is Weber worth $8M/year? In today's market, probably. Worth $8M/year for 14 years AND 4 1st-rounders? God no. If I'm Nashville, I give Philly a big hug for making this the easiest decision ever and giving up 4 1sts to do it.Can someone explain to me why the NHL could do what they did to Kovalchuk, but can't/won't do anything to this contract? The last 4 years are unplayable. Link to post Share on other sites
Fubar The Sperm 1 Posted July 19, 2012 Author Share Posted July 19, 2012 Does seem crazy. Is Weber worth $8M/year? In today's market, probably. Worth $8M/year for 14 years AND 4 1st-rounders? God no. If I'm Nashville, I give Philly a big hug for making this the easiest decision ever and giving up 4 1sts to do it.Can someone explain to me why the NHL could do what they did to Kovalchuk, but can't/won't do anything to this contract? The last 4 years are unplayable.Reports say its upwards of 100 million. If it is exactly 100 then his cap hit is about 7.1 and Nashville would get 2 firsts and 1 second and third. If Nashville can afford the upfront cost it's probably more worthwhile to match. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Reports say its upwards of 100 million. If it is exactly 100 then his cap hit is about 7.1 and Nashville would get 2 firsts and 1 second and third. If Nashville can afford the upfront cost it's probably more worthwhile to match.It will be 4 1sts.The average cap hit for compensation purposes is the average actual amount of money paid in the first 5 years of the contract which puts it in the 4 1st round pick area. Link to post Share on other sites
Fenxis 99 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 If I'm Nashville, I give Philly a big hug for making this the easiest decision ever and giving up 4 1sts to do it.I don't know... in terms of marketplace viability I think the Preds have to sign him and then pray for a lockout. Link to post Share on other sites
Fubar The Sperm 1 Posted July 19, 2012 Author Share Posted July 19, 2012 I think they should let him go and take the 4 firsts and then go hard after Doan and maybe add Semin on a 1 yer deal to keep fans excited. Also turning some of those picks into Ryan and/or Bouwmeester should be looked at. Link to post Share on other sites
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