FCP Bob 1,312 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Vancouver could be in the market for Kaberle with all their injured dmen. I'm not sure what they would be willing to send back in the offer that would satisfy Burke.Kesler would look good as a Leaf. Fair trade ? Link to post Share on other sites
SBriand 4 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Mason Raymond maybe. Kesler still has what, 3 or 4 years left on his contract. I would agree to the trade if Kaberle was going to resign in Van. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 There is ZERO chance Kaberle would agree to go to Vancouver.You've spoken to him and his father about it? Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted February 17, 2011 Author Share Posted February 17, 2011 You've spoken to him and his father about it?yup Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Mason Raymond maybe. Kesler still has what, 3 or 4 years left on his contract. I would agree to the trade if Kaberle was going to resign in Van.I was joking about Kesler, he's on pace for over 45 goals this year and might be an MVP Finalist. Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 There is ZERO chance Kaberle would agree to go to Vancouver.This may as well be an (e5) after that statement. Kaberle to Vancouver for Shirokov and a 1st. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Jeff Angus: My guess on Kaberle return: Blake Wheeler, one of Zach Hamill/Joe Colborne, and a prospect.I think that would be a ridiculous overpayment for Kaberle. Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Jeff Angus: My guess on Kaberle return: Blake Wheeler, one of Zach Hamill/Joe Colborne, and a prospect.I think that would be a ridiculous overpayment for Kaberle.If its Colborne alone, I think its an overpayment.Add Wheeler+halfway decent prospect, and now its like the Kessel deal didnt really happen. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I'm wondering if a Goligoski/Wheeler trade would be the foundation for something? Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I'm wondering if a Goligoski/Wheeler trade would be the foundation for something?I wouldnt really consider that if I was Pitt, unless I got much more. Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Jeff Angus: My guess on Kaberle return: Blake Wheeler, one of Zach Hamill/Joe Colborne, and a prospect.I think that would be a ridiculous overpayment for Kaberle.Well, keep in mind that Boston has to give up salary somewhere to bring Kaberle in. They're technically $2 million over the cap right now, but Savard's LTIR brings them about $2 million under. Add Wheeler's $2.2 to that and you're home bringing Kaberle's $4.2 into the mix. Then you have to give Toronto something extra because Wheeler for Kaberle straight up doesn't get it done and Boston obviously isn't giving Toronto it's first back and they already dealt their own 2nd...so the rest of the package is either Boston's 1st rounder or a decent prospect...which equals Colborne or Hamill. I think adding another prospect or pick on top of that would be too much, unless it was a late pick or a bad prospect. Kaberle for Wheeler and one of Colborne/Hamill/Boston 1st rounder sounds right to me. Link to post Share on other sites
Dubey 1,035 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I'd be pretty thrilled with Wheeler + Colborne Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Well, keep in mind that Boston has to give up salary somewhere to bring Kaberle in. They're technically $2 million over the cap right now, but Savard's LTIR brings them about $2 million under. Add Wheeler's $2.2 to that and you're home bringing Kaberle's $4.2 into the mix. Then you have to give Toronto something extra because Wheeler for Kaberle straight up doesn't get it done and Boston obviously isn't giving Toronto it's first back and they already dealt their own 2nd...so the rest of the package is either Boston's 1st rounder or a decent prospect...which equals Colborne or Hamill. I think adding another prospect or pick on top of that would be too much, unless it was a late pick or a bad prospect. Kaberle for Wheeler and one of Colborne/Hamill/Boston 1st rounder sounds right to me.Why do you have to give Wheeler to the Leafs?Trade Wheeler elsewhere if you have to, and then give the Leafs Hamill+pick, if they dont want just Wheeler.Leafs should be pretty thrilled with Wheeler and Hamill/highish pick imo.Maybe I value Colborne more than most, but I wouldnt give him up for just a few months of Kaberle. Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Why do you have to give Wheeler to the Leafs?Trade Wheeler elsewhere if you have to, and then give the Leafs Hamill+pick, if they dont want just Wheeler.Leafs should be pretty thrilled with Wheeler and Hamill/highish pick imo.Maybe I value Colborne more than most, but I wouldnt give him up for just a few months of Kaberle.I see Marco Sturm being more valuable than Wheeler, and Boston had to dump him to the Kings for nothing to get cap-compliant. Who says anyone will give up much of anything for Wheeler on his merit without being part of a bigger deal? Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I see Marco Sturm being more valuable than Wheeler, and Boston had to dump him to the Kings for nothing to get cap-compliant. Who says anyone will give up much of anything for Wheeler on his merit without being part of a bigger deal?WOW! Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Who says anyone will give up much of anything for Wheeler on his merit without being part of a bigger deal?I guess I do. I got no way of knowing any NHL GM would, but Im honestly suprised if his value is truly nothing. He's still just 24, and unlike Sturm's contract, you have control over his salary/terms.I wouldnt even compare the two players, Wheeler just has way more upside, imo. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted February 17, 2011 Author Share Posted February 17, 2011 Jeff Angus: My guess on Kaberle return: Blake Wheeler, one of Zach Hamill/Joe Colborne, and a prospect.I think that would be a ridiculous overpayment for Kaberle.I would be VERY happy with this...Wheeler, Colborne and a late round pick..Do it..And then to stick it to them, Kaberle doesnt sign and comes back to Toronto...Chiarelli can go suck his face. Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I don't know...I kind of see Blake Wheeler like he's Dan Paille a couple years ago before Buffalo realized he wasn't going to be any more than that and shipped him out. Just not a fan. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted February 17, 2011 Author Share Posted February 17, 2011 Jarkko Ruutu to the Ducks for a 6th round pick. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted February 18, 2011 Author Share Posted February 18, 2011 Marc Stuart not in lineup tonight..Speculation is he is going to Chicago and this would make room for the Kaberle trade to go through. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Marc Stuart not in lineup tonight..Speculation is he is going to Chicago and this would make room for the Kaberle trade to go through.Fingers crossed that Boston ****s up. Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Jarkko Ruutu to the Ducks for a 6th round pick.hmmm, if they can get Cooke for a 4th rounder, they will have the all a**hole line of Ruutu-Cooke-Lapierre. Link to post Share on other sites
Fenxis 99 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Jarkko Ruutu to the Ducks for a 6th round pick.Can't wait to see what ECHL player the Sens get with that pick... Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 hmmm, if they can get Cooke for a 4th rounder, they will have the all a**hole line of Ruutu-Cooke-Lapierre.OfftopicArp, in case you're not aware...the HHOF is selling a VERY NICE Ron Francis hat. Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 OfftopicArp, in case you're not aware...the HHOF is selling a VERY NICE Ron Francis hat.no, I wasnt, thank you.but what kind of hat? like a baseball cap? Link to post Share on other sites
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