Bad Floor Ruling?

[DCJ001 0]

From one faggot to another, I have a question. Recently I told someone I had d/l'd the Hall & Oates album Private Eyes. They immediately called me gay for recognizing the awesome factor of this album. While something gay can be completely awesome, ie: the movie The Devil Wears Prada, I don't believe Hall & Oates falls into this category. ruling?

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=VX0SD_cazhs#t=30s

[Tactical Bear 3]

I will say this: If I wasn't paying attention to the action and put chips into the pot, I would NOT expect to get them back. This is not a noisy room, I clearly declared myself all-in, the dealer and several other players said they heard me. The 7-seat was not wearing headphones so he must not have been paying close attention. I think the $30 should have stayed and the player be given the option to fold or call the all-in. I do not remember for sure if the dealer announced me all-in. I am fairly certain that he did, but this dealer is soft spoken.

It sounds to me like you think the rule should be enforced in order to keep the action moving, and to encourage players to pay close attention at the table. I think this is the only interpretation I can agree with, but it would be just as effective if it were applied randomly and spuriously.

holy shit, it's St. Patty's Day!I love how floors get to a table and have to listen to a recap of action from the dealer while players are barking and interjecting what they think the ruling should be all while trying to suss out what actually happened. I don't envy your job. From one faggot to another, I have a question. Recently I told someone I had d/l'd the Hall & Oates album Private Eyes. They immediately called me gay for recognizing the awesome factor of this album. While something gay can be completely awesome, ie: the movie The Devil Wears Prada, I don't believe Hall & Oates falls into this category. ruling?

Yeah, it's ridiculous. Most of the players who know me understand that I have zero-tolerance for interruptions when I come to a table. Dealer first, then the players involved in the hand, then anybody else who can help me out. My first few weeks as a floor man, I made a really bad ruling because one player just would not shut up, and it clouded my judgment to the point that I ruled against him out of spite. I've never let that happen again, but I absolutely threaten players with it all the time. Most of the time they still can't keep quiet while the dealer recounts the situation. Fortunately, I'm funny and mean, so I just make fun of the offenders until they shut up. Re: Hall & OatesI'm not a big fan of their music, but I think "Maneater" and "Kiss on My List" are both firmly in the "fucking gay" camp. If the rest of their material is anything like that, they're kinda gay. If not, they're cool because of that one guy's uber-sweet mustache.

[mtdesmoines 3]

These statements are really really true.Some of my best friends to this day are people who I met at the poker table competing with and trying to take their money in the game but becoming good friends away from it.It might be a generational difference in attitude showing or just the fact that a live casino is a much more social thing and you might see the same people day after day and it makes everything better when you get along with and like the people you're playing with.

Geez guys. Bob's so right here. And the room wants to stay in business, so it's going to lean toward letting players make correctible errors. People come to a room to gamble and be entertained, NOT to be angleshot and clipped for every chip possible. You want to kill a game, a table, a room .... be an ******* about every rule you can pull from the rulebook. Generally, I've ALWAYS seen that as long as there's no action behind the mistake, the mistaken bet can be retrieved. Especially when there's only $30 in the pot from the all-in bettor. Besides, if you don't think you can take $30 in another spot from some moron who isn't paying attention, you should probably leave the table yourself.

[GeddyL. 0]

This is a fascinating subject. Like many, I'm not thrilled with the ruling... but in the 20 odd years I've been playing poker, I ALWAYS see it enforced this way. The small blind probably does it what, 10-20% of every raised hand? Who really demands that they (SB) keep that extra buck out there?? I've been guilty of it myself. Usually because a tired dealer isn't doing a great job running a game in a loud casino. There's a difference between a good faith error and trying to shoot an angle. It just sucks when you're on the other end.

[Mercury69 3]

Re: Warning a player/table > I think this is not the best way to go. While some judgement is required to work out a situation, does that mean rules become guidelines? Also, with the potential for high turnover at a table, what if the same scenario happened 20 munites later, yet received a different ruling? Given the tourney ruling stated in another BBGun post, this floor seems to be lacking consistency, which says to me that the rules should be applied vigorously without deviation and with consistency. Sure, the floor may have some leeway, but it is ultimately the player's responsibility to know the rules or, at least, be familiar with them. And, for God's sake, take a look around and pay attention when the betting is coming around to you. Acting detached and like you don't care is not cool, it's disrespectful when you're playing a game. You want to act like that, go smoke pot and hang out with your friends in your basement.

[bbgun 0]

It sounds to me like you think the rule should be enforced in order to keep the action moving, and to encourage players to pay close attention at the table. I think this is the only interpretation I can agree with, but it would be just as effective if it were applied randomly and spuriously.Yeah, it's ridiculous. Most of the players who know me understand that I have zero-tolerance for interruptions when I come to a table. Dealer first, then the players involved in the hand, then anybody else who can help me out. My first few weeks as a floor man, I made a really bad ruling because one player just would not shut up, and it clouded my judgment to the point that I ruled against him out of spite. I've never let that happen again, but I absolutely threaten players with it all the time. Most of the time they still can't keep quiet while the dealer recounts the situation. Fortunately, I'm funny and mean, so I just make fun of the offenders until they shut up. Re: Hall & OatesI'm not a big fan of their music, but I think "Maneater" and "Kiss on My List" are both firmly in the "fucking gay" camp. If the rest of their material is anything like that, they're kinda gay. If not, they're cool because of that one guy's uber-sweet mustache.

One last question...would your ruling change if I was all-in for say, $52 instead of $88?

[Jariso13 1]

Will all of you blatantly homosexual, small-dicked bastards please try to keep the insults to a minimum, and instead try to help me elevate the discourse around here?

Why is this homo thinking about peoples dicks?