s_pkrstr_s 0 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comButton ($25.65)SB ($24.75)BB ($25.90)UTG ($30.20)UTG+1 ($25.60)MP1 ($25)MP2 ($38.55)MP3 ($25.45)Hero (CO) ($25.90)Preflop: Hero is CO with A, Q5 folds, Hero bets $1, Button calls $1, SB calls $0.90, 1 foldFlop: ($3.25) Q, 10, Q(3 players)SB checks, Hero checks, Button bets $1, SB calls $1, Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, SB calls $2Turn: ($10.25) 9(2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $4.75, SB raises to $9.50, Hero calls $4.75River: ($29.25) J(2 players)SB bets $11.25 (All-In)Auto-fold on the river im guessing? Should I have played it any different, maybe shove on the turn? Link to post Share on other sites
Lucoo_ 0 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Bet the flop !!! The board is drawy enough and any Q will come along.Bet the turn somewhat bigger, i prefer about 7. As played fold the river. You beat nothing. Link to post Share on other sites
Darth Maple 0 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Bet around $2-$2.50 on flopBet around $6-$7 on turnI don't think we can get away from this hand on the turn so I shove.If he has 10 10 c'est la vie.As played though, it's a fold on the river. Link to post Share on other sites
Darth Maple 0 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Bet the flop !!! The board is drawy enough and any Q will come along.Bet the turn somewhat bigger, i prefer about 7. As played fold the river. You beat nothing.OP, I'd be happy with the check on a Q Q 2 rainbow Board but not on this Board as Lucoo says above. Any heart draw, straight draw will have a chance of getting there if you give up a free card. Link to post Share on other sites
rrumsey 0 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 aboves nailed it bet harder they odviously have something so barrel harder on flop and river, but yah we have a total bluff catcher on river, so void of reads fold and ask yourself why you were so worried to have villain fold earlier in the hand. You failed to charge max to the draws and gave them odds to hang around. We should have been able to shove turn if we bet bigger on flop and get called so that is the ideal line here Link to post Share on other sites
viva la cam 0 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 would have bet the flop alot harder... making any draw not worth it Link to post Share on other sites
Luke00016 0 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 I definitely agree with the above posters, but if you're going to try a check/raise on such a draw-heavy board, you need to bet more. You got someone to throw a stab out there, now give them worse than 2:5 odds. If they fold, you weren't winning any more in the hand anyway. If they call, they made a mistake drawing at bad odds. If they raise you back, you're going to be ready to stack off and either crush a weaker queen, be coolered by TT, or be racing against a huge draw. Link to post Share on other sites
viva la cam 0 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 I definitely agree with the above posters, but if you're going to try a check/raise on such a draw-heavy board, you need to bet more. You got someone to throw a stab out there, now give them worse than 2:5 odds. If they fold, you weren't winning any more in the hand anyway. If they call, they made a mistake drawing at bad odds. If they raise you back, you're going to be ready to stack off and either crush a weaker queen, be coolered by TT, or be racing against a huge draw.and i definitely agree with you Link to post Share on other sites
s_pkrstr_s 0 Posted November 3, 2009 Author Share Posted November 3, 2009 thanks a lot guys. I definately think thats one of my biggest leaks is slow playing a big hand when there are draws out there. Its really helpful hearing what others have to say about certain hands. Now that i know how to work the hand converter ill try posting some more interesting ones... Link to post Share on other sites
kreppsen 0 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 thanks a lot guys. I definately think thats one of my biggest leaks is slow playing a big hand when there are draws out there. Its really helpful hearing what others have to say about certain hands. Now that i know how to work the hand converter ill try posting some more interesting ones...Winning 5 dollars is better than losing 10. Don't be greedy, bet harder and ship it home on the flop Link to post Share on other sites
Massimo8 0 Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Think i might have checked the flop as well, right or wrong, and depending on what kinda player SB was.I prob woulda made a big bet on the turn to price out any draws, basically what's already been said. Link to post Share on other sites
redhollywood 0 Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 Winning 5 dollars is better than losing 10. Don't be greedy, bet harder and ship it home on the flopditto Link to post Share on other sites
Merby 3 Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 Bet bigger on all streets (except PF -- that looks fine). As has already been discussed, lead at that flop (I suggest $3).In the unlikely event that you opt to check-raise the flop (for example, a misclick check on the flop), you need to check-raise larger. Pot raise at that point is $7.25, but I make it larger being OOP against the bettor with one tag-along caller. If I check-raise here, I'm making it ~$8 in order to set up the turn shove. Link to post Share on other sites
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