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PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.10 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comButton ($12.30)SB ($10.20)BB ($7.35)UTG ($17.45)Hero (UTG+1) ($20.65)MP1 ($5.80)MP2 ($7)CO ($2)Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 10diamond.gif, 8diamond.gif, 7heart.gif, Qspade.gifUTG calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10, MP1 calls $0.10, MP2 calls $0.10, 1 fold, Button calls $0.10, 1 fold, BB checksFlop: ($0.65) 9club.gif, 8spade.gif, 6club.gif(6 players)BB checks, UTG bets $0.65, Hero raises to $1.90, MP1 calls $1.90, 1 fold, Button calls $1.90, 1 fold, UTG raises to $10.15, Hero ????????, Is it ok to get it all in here with no redraws?

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Your Q gives you a bit of a redraw if a J comes. I'd have no problem getting it all in here on a rainbow flop. Sucks that the only other big stack on the table is the one pushing you.Is it worth flatting and shoving a safe turn?

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I never even considered flatting tbh, I'm not a big fan of putting in half of my stack then folding but I suppose it would save me money those times when a scare card falls on the turn. I am sure that UTG will shove on me on every turn card anyway.

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does anyone think it might be ok being that MP1 and the button came along? I would guess a lot of the club/boat cards are drawing pretty thin?
The problem is, it's very likely that you're splitting right now with at least one of them. That means you get at most 1/2 the pot, and you need probably need half the deck to miss. Twice. If it was the J9 straight on T87 then yeah, get it all in because only a 9 can give a higher straight. With it being (Q)T7 on 689, you've probably got to avoid a 7 a T or a Q (6 outs) as well as the board pairing and the flush coming.I fold.FWIW I probably flat call the initial flop bet for this exact reason.
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The problem is, it's very likely that you're splitting right now with at least one of them. That means you get at most 1/2 the pot, and you need probably need half the deck to miss. Twice. If it was the J9 straight on T87 then yeah, get it all in because only a 9 can give a higher straight. With it being (Q)T7 on 689, you've probably got to avoid a 7 a T or a Q (6 outs) as well as the board pairing and the flush coming.I fold.FWIW I probably flat call the initial flop bet for this exact reason.
me too
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Thanks for the responses, I got it all in on the flop but felt it was probably the wrong thing to do but I wasnt sure! Bloody Hold em player that I am!!!Villain did have the same straight and Q high club drawMP1 had 5678Button had the naked nut flush drawTurn was the 8c but I rivered a Q for a bigger full house! Man were they pissed at me!!! LOLZ!!

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nice draw. to pick up on something said earlier i wouldnt flat call the flop. its not nlhe but going halfway just makes you feel pot committed but doesnt force a decision for others the way that a shove in does even if your sure that UTG will call a shove.i say fold or shove. but i have nlhe tendencies also.

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