Balloon guy 158 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 So you mean they're not going to hoist Obama to the top of the stadium and have him run sideways in the air unfurling a video of campaign events trailing behind him? Lame.You didn't hear it from me, but the producers of the Obama coronation were not happy with what they ended up with.But the Obama camp told the special event producers who put on special events for a living that team Obama knew what would be best.This is why conventional wisdom says don't elect Senators to the big job, they micro manage everything, instead of delegating.At least that counts for change...I guess Link to post Share on other sites
copernicus 0 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 You didn't hear it from me, but the producers of the Obama coronation were not happy with what they ended up with.But the Obama camp told the special event producers who put on special events for a living that team Obama knew what would be best.This is why conventional wisdom says don't elect Senators to the big job, they micro manage everything, instead of delegating.At least that counts for change...I guessHe'll blame the crappy fireworks on Bush for letting China take all of our jobs. Link to post Share on other sites
vbnautilus 48 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 He'll blame the crappy fireworks on Bush for letting China take all of our jobs.The reality is that Balloon Guy is sabotaging the Obama campaign with bogus event-planning advice. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 The reality is that Balloon Guy is sabotaging the Obama campaign with bogus event-planning advice.!Take that Checkymcfold Link to post Share on other sites
hblask 1 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 After much consideration, I don't think Biden will help Obama as much as he hurt him. Obviously Biden's past remarks will be played again and again for the next few months, but the biggest problem with picking Biden is that Obama seems to be shooting for the McCain demographic -- gray-haired career politician Washington insider. But McCain has that vote locked up. So Biden's past comments are a net negative for Obama, his old man insider status is a "no change". Obama really needed to throw a bone to the disgruntled Hillary voters who don't want to vote for McCain, but *really* don't want to vote for Obama. A liberal female senator or governor would've been the way to go. Link to post Share on other sites
copernicus 0 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 After much consideration, I don't think Biden will help Obama as much as he hurt him. Obviously Biden's past remarks will be played again and again for the next few months, but the biggest problem with picking Biden is that Obama seems to be shooting for the McCain demographic -- gray-haired career politician Washington insider. But McCain has that vote locked up. So Biden's past comments are a net negative for Obama, his old man insider status is a "no change". Obama really needed to throw a bone to the disgruntled Hillary voters who don't want to vote for McCain, but *really* don't want to vote for Obama. A liberal female senator or governor would've been the way to go.In general I think youre right but there are two key states where Biden can help specifically, he's Pennsylvania's homeboy and will have huge Jewish support in Florida and can pull some of the fence sitters who might not otherwise vote for a "schwarze". Link to post Share on other sites
akoff 0 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 In general I think youre right but there are two key states where Biden can help specifically, he's Pennsylvania's homeboy and will have huge Jewish support in Florida and can pull some of the fence sitters who might not otherwise vote for a "schwarze".Pennslyvania has gone Dem the last 3 or 4 elections anyway and I think the spread has gotten a bit larger the last two elections...he is going to get PA I am afraid. To many intelligent Rebublican voters have pulled up stakes and moved to to Florida...McCain really needs needs that one....and Ohio!!I know it is a hot button but I still don't believe that many of the fence sitters are willing to walk into a booth, pull the curtain closed and vote for a black man with a muslem name....i just don't believe it. People like to say they will but I don't think it will happen. Link to post Share on other sites
copernicus 0 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 I know it is a hot button but I still don't believe that many of the fence sitters are willing to walk into a booth, pull the curtain closed and vote for a black man with a muslem name....i just don't believe it. People like to say they will but I don't think it will happen.It wont take many to swing Florida one way or the other. I think it would have been close but Red with Shrillary as VP. She is pro-Israel but not nearly as active as Biden for Jewish causes who has had UJA funding since the 70s and returned the favor. Biden will swing quite a few who would have had voting booth remorse.Did you see my Marc Reed question, Akoff? Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Pennslyvania has gone Dem the last 3 or 4 elections anyway and I think the spread has gotten a bit larger the last two elections...he is going to get PA I am afraid. To many intelligent Rebublican voters have pulled up stakes and moved to to Florida...McCain really needs needs that one....and Ohio!!I know it is a hot button but I still don't believe that many of the fence sitters are willing to walk into a booth, pull the curtain closed and vote for a black man with a muslem name....i just don't believe it. People like to say they will but I don't think it will happen.Do you think they will put Obama's name above Bidens on the bumper stickers, or the other way around?Obama / BidenLooks a lot like Osama Bin Ladin Link to post Share on other sites
copernicus 0 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Do you think they will put Obama's name above Bidens on the bumper stickers, or the other way around?Obama / BidenLooks a lot like Osama Bin LadinIm sure someone is printing Obama bin Biden bumper stickers as we speak. Link to post Share on other sites
hblask 1 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Im sure someone is printing Obama bin Biden bumper stickers as we speak http://www.zazzle.com/obama_bin_biden_bump...231778639632572http://bumperstickers.cafepress.com/item/o...umper/297136806http://www.obamabinbiden2008.com/ Link to post Share on other sites
copernicus 0 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 http://www.zazzle.com/obama_bin_biden_bump...231778639632572http://bumperstickers.cafepress.com/item/o...umper/297136806http://www.obamabinbiden2008.com/ Lmao did the first guy mean to use the crescent moon and got confused, or is he trying to make a socialist statement?The middle one is too subtle....needs at least a ? at the endThird one the graphics are awful.Cmon people, we can do better!<running over to Costco to turn the ObamaNation books up again> Link to post Share on other sites
sniper6121 0 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Obama lost my vote Biden is an idiot he is against file sharing, Net Neutrality, and Online privacy... Here is the article. Guess that leaves Bob Barr http://gizmodo.com/5041044/vp-candidate-bi...-online-privacy Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Pennslyvania has gone Dem the last 3 or 4 elections anyway and I think the spread has gotten a bit larger the last two elections...he is going to get PA I am afraid. To many intelligent Rebublican voters have pulled up stakes and moved to to Florida...McCain really needs needs that one....and Ohio!!I know it is a hot button but I still don't believe that many of the fence sitters are willing to walk into a booth, pull the curtain closed and vote for a black man with a muslem name....i just don't believe it. People like to say they will but I don't think it will happen.In florida, anything can happen. Most unpredictable state ever.Copernicus is right about the jewish vote here. Obama was wildly unpopular (for a Dem) in the Boca Raton circuit. Biden should ensure the Jewish vote stays Democratic.And Copernicus, I told you so. Dems run elections like they have little interest in winning. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Hair plugs anyone? Link to post Share on other sites
hblask 1 Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Hair plugs anyone?Wow, Obama just lost the "natural hair lover" vote. Link to post Share on other sites
vbnautilus 48 Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Wow, Obama just lost the "natural hair lover" vote.....but may have picked up the entire Hair Club for Men. Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 I guess he hurts..... Link to post Share on other sites
copernicus 0 Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 I guess he hurts.....more like an non-event, but I think a lot of people wouldnt react to it coming so close to the convention and seeing what that brings.Last night was also a non-event at the convention, other than the hilarious ignoring of Nancy Pelosi during her speech. The biggest news coming out of the event is the Obama campaign realization that a full roll call would be more divisive than uniting. Now you can expect Shrillary to jump out of her chair screaming "Thank you thank you to all my supporters but now its time to unite behind the next POTUS and confirm his nomination by affirmation". That may get some bounce. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 more like an non-event, but I think a lot of people wouldnt react to it coming so close to the convention and seeing what that brings.Last night was also a non-event at the convention, other than the hilarious ignoring of Nancy Pelosi during her speech. The biggest news coming out of the event is the Obama campaign realization that a full roll call would be more divisive than uniting. Now you can expect Shrillary to jump out of her chair screaming "Thank you thank you to all my supporters but now its time to unite behind the next POTUS and confirm his nomination by affirmation". That may get some bounce.Any chance she loses it mid speech and drops the N word?ONE TIME! Link to post Share on other sites
copernicus 0 Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Any chance she loses it mid speech and drops the N word?ONE TIME!Narcissist? Edwards isnt thereNauseating? She wouldnt put Bill down in such a big venueOh...Neophyte, I get it. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Narcissist? Edwards isnt thereNauseating? She wouldnt put Bill down in such a big venueOh...Neophyte, I get it.No silly.The N word at the democrat convention is: Nadar Link to post Share on other sites
vbnautilus 48 Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 No silly.The N word at the democrat convention is: NadarAh, you mean the new device they have for detecting the election presence of Ralph Nader? Link to post Share on other sites
copernicus 0 Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Ah, you mean the new device they have for detecting the election presence of Ralph Nader?I thought he meant Nadir...as low as you can go. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Ah, you mean the new device they have for detecting the election presence of Ralph Nader?I hope all you kids now see why you should stay in school, so you don't get owned like this for bad spelling mistakes. Link to post Share on other sites
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