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Given his stack size I don't think its a bad call. I think its a fold if he has a decent stack but I think its close since he is short. That Stove is probably a little loose for Wandi but I think its close. So given that he is probably pretty close to getting the proper odds based on Stove calcs + being short, it probably is a call.

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ship the donation right before break in the 750k! 5/280Full Tilt Poker Game #7116428377: $750,000 Guarantee (52052157), Table 279 - 800/1600 Ante 200 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:25:07 ET - 2008/07/06Seat 1: astonwilli (51,749)Seat 2: LuckyLukeKK (30,621)Seat 3: whatariver1 (20,164)Seat 4: Bernie Kosar (25,272)Seat 5: Smurf_Fla (14,909)Seat 6: RandomDonk (37,056)Seat 7: eab1 (42,348)Seat 8: DBmeplz (66,610)Seat 9: the_bale (6,920)astonwilli antes 200LuckyLukeKK antes 200whatariver1 antes 200Bernie Kosar antes 200Smurf_Fla antes 200RandomDonk antes 200eab1 antes 200DBmeplz antes 200the_bale antes 200eab1 posts the small blind of 800DBmeplz posts the big blind of 1,600The button is in seat #6*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to DBmeplz [Ks Kd]the_bale foldsastonwilli foldsLuckyLukeKK foldswhatariver1 foldsBernie Kosar raises to 3,999Smurf_Fla foldsRandomDonk foldseab1 calls 3,199DBmeplz has 15 seconds left to actDBmeplz raises to 16,100Bernie Kosar foldseab1 calls 12,101*** FLOP *** [6c 7c 2c]eab1 has 15 seconds left to acteab1 bets 26,048, and is all inDBmeplz calls 26,048eab1 shows [Jh Kh]DBmeplz shows [Ks Kd]*** TURN *** [6c 7c 2c] [2h]*** RIVER *** [6c 7c 2c 2h] [Jd]eab1 shows two pair, Jacks and TwosDBmeplz shows two pair, Kings and TwosDBmeplz wins the pot (90,095) with two pair, Kings and Twoseab1 stands up*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 90,095 | Rake 0Board: [6c 7c 2c 2h Jd]Seat 1: astonwilli folded before the FlopSeat 2: LuckyLukeKK folded before the FlopSeat 3: whatariver1 folded before the FlopSeat 4: Bernie Kosar folded before the FlopSeat 5: Smurf_Fla folded before the FlopSeat 6: RandomDonk (button) folded before the FlopSeat 7: eab1 (small blind) showed [Jh Kh] and lost with two pair, Jacks and TwosSeat 8: DBmeplz (big blind) showed [Ks Kd] and won (90,095) with two pair, Kings and TwosSeat 9: the_bale folded before the Flop

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even if you think someone made a bad call deep in a tournament, it is a very classless to tell them to "get aids" and then telling them that you were serious after they had already apolized for knocking you out and said good game. I think i might have lost a little respect for wandigo.
lol if you think it's the first time someones used the "get aids" comment after busting from a big tournament
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no... im aware that some people say that after busting but that doesnt mean I think that its an ok thing to say.... especially to a fellow forum member.you could have easily said good game and good luck to him as he said to you but you chose to act very childish.

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no... im aware that some people say that after busting but that doesnt mean I think that its an ok thing to say.... especially to a fellow forum member.
FWIW I played with DinkDonk unknowingly today. Didn't know his SN until that hand was posted.
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no... im aware that some people say that after busting but that doesnt mean I think that its an ok thing to say.... especially to a fellow forum member.you could have easily said good game and good luck to him as he said to you but you chose to act very childish.
lol i've never heard the name Kenny855 before on this forum, how would I know he's a forum member? pretty sure you've got upset after busting and berated someone at one point or another. get over it or don't like me, i don't care.
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him being a forum member was not my main point. but o well... good luck in your tournies.

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FWIW I played with DinkDonk unknowingly today. Didn't know his SN until that hand was posted.
I tried to let you know in this thread. You ran pretty terrible btw. Thanks for the analysis.
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lameFull Tilt Poker Game #7116595123: $750,000 Guarantee (52052157), Table 279 - 1000/2000 Ante 250 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:37:48 ET - 2008/07/06Seat 1: astonwilli (51,549)Seat 2: LuckyLukeKK (25,421)Seat 3: whatariver1 (20,114)Seat 4: Bernie Kosar (15,823)Seat 5: Smurf_Fla (9,459)Seat 6: RandomDonk (42,486)Seat 7: whitefriars (19,446)Seat 8: DBmeplz (119,607)Seat 9: the_bale (16,190)astonwilli antes 250LuckyLukeKK antes 250whatariver1 antes 250Bernie Kosar antes 250Smurf_Fla antes 250RandomDonk antes 250whitefriars antes 250DBmeplz antes 250the_bale antes 250DBmeplz posts the small blind of 1,000the_bale posts the big blind of 2,000The button is in seat #7*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to DBmeplz [8c 8d]astonwilli foldsLuckyLukeKK foldswhatariver1 foldsBernie Kosar raises to 15,555Smurf_Fla foldsRandomDonk foldswhitefriars foldsDBmeplz has 15 seconds left to actDBmeplz raises to 29,110the_bale foldsBernie Kosar calls 18, and is all inDBmeplz shows [8c 8d]Bernie Kosar shows [7s 8s]Uncalled bet of 13,537 returned to DBmeplz*** FLOP *** [3h 9h Jh]*** TURN *** [3h 9h Jh] [Td]*** RIVER *** [3h 9h Jh Td] [7c]DBmeplz shows a straight, Jack highBernie Kosar shows a straight, Jack highDBmeplz ties for the pot (17,698) with a straight, Jack highBernie Kosar ties for the pot (17,698) with a straight, Jack high*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 35,396 | Rake 0Board: [3h 9h Jh Td 7c]Seat 1: astonwilli folded before the FlopSeat 2: LuckyLukeKK folded before the FlopSeat 3: whatariver1 folded before the FlopSeat 4: Bernie Kosar showed [7s 8s] and won (17,698) with a straight, Jack highSeat 5: Smurf_Fla folded before the FlopSeat 6: RandomDonk folded before the FlopSeat 7: whitefriars (button) folded before the FlopSeat 8: DBmeplz (small blind) showed [8c 8d] and won (17,698) with a straight, Jack highSeat 9: the_bale (big blind) folded before the Flop

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niceFull Tilt Poker Game #7116630786: $750,000 Guarantee (52052157), Table 279 - 1000/2000 Ante 250 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:40:29 ET - 2008/07/06Seat 1: astonwilli (47,299)Seat 2: LuckyLukeKK (26,421)Seat 3: whatariver1 (15,864)Seat 4: Bernie Kosar (19,948)Seat 5: Smurf_Fla (8,209)Seat 6: RandomDonk (29,046)Seat 7: whitefriars (23,446)Seat 8: DBmeplz (120,482)Seat 9: the_bale (29,380)astonwilli antes 250LuckyLukeKK antes 250whatariver1 antes 250Bernie Kosar antes 250Smurf_Fla antes 250RandomDonk antes 250whitefriars antes 250DBmeplz antes 250the_bale antes 250Bernie Kosar posts the small blind of 1,000Smurf_Fla posts the big blind of 2,000The button is in seat #3*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to DBmeplz [Kc As]RandomDonk foldswhitefriars raises to 23,196, and is all inDBmeplz has 15 seconds left to actDBmeplz raises to 120,232, and is all inthe_bale foldsastonwilli foldsLuckyLukeKK foldswhatariver1 foldsBernie Kosar foldsSmurf_Fla foldsDBmeplz shows [Kc As]whitefriars shows [Ac Js]Uncalled bet of 97,036 returned to DBmeplz*** FLOP *** [9c 9d Ks]*** TURN *** [9c 9d Ks] [3s]*** RIVER *** [9c 9d Ks 3s] [4h]DBmeplz shows two pair, Kings and Nineswhitefriars shows a pair of NinesDBmeplz wins the pot (51,642) with two pair, Kings and Nineswhitefriars stands up*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 51,642 | Rake 0Board: [9c 9d Ks 3s 4h]Seat 1: astonwilli folded before the FlopSeat 2: LuckyLukeKK folded before the FlopSeat 3: whatariver1 (button) folded before the FlopSeat 4: Bernie Kosar (small blind) folded before the FlopSeat 5: Smurf_Fla (big blind) folded before the FlopSeat 6: RandomDonk folded before the FlopSeat 7: whitefriars showed [Ac Js] and lost with a pair of NinesSeat 8: DBmeplz showed [Kc As] and won (51,642) with two pair, Kings and NinesSeat 9: the_bale folded before the Flop

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I tried to let you know in this thread. You ran pretty terrible btw. Thanks for the analysis.
Oh, missed that. Sad part is I am so used to Sunday's they all just run together and I don't remember how I went out. I just know I went from a 25k stack at like 200/400 to out in like 5 minutes. I think I got coolered twice?
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even if you think someone made a bad call deep in a tournament, it is a very classless to tell them to "get aids" and then telling them that you were serious after they had already apolized for knocking you out and said good game. I think i might have lost a little respect for wandigo.
'Get aids' is like 'get lupus,' it doesn't mean you really want the person to get ill. Also now that the HIV is treatable, it's not like you're telling them to die. It's similar to 'get bent' when said at an online poker table, imo.
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Wandi if you've calmed down and don't mind me asking, what would you say your range was in the TT, AK, JJ hand?

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nice 2/192 in 750kFull Tilt Poker Game #7116710053: $750,000 Guarantee (52052157), Table 279 - 1200/2400 Ante 300 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:46:30 ET - 2008/07/06Seat 1: astonwilli (41,399)Seat 2: LuckyLukeKK (20,121)Seat 3: whatariver1 (19,814)Seat 4: Bernie Kosar (7,930)Seat 5: Smurf_Fla (27,136)Seat 6: RandomDonk (40,146)Seat 7: IamMerkinValdez (51,766)Seat 8: DBmeplz (145,069)Seat 9: the_bale (23,680)astonwilli antes 300LuckyLukeKK antes 300whatariver1 antes 300Bernie Kosar antes 300Smurf_Fla antes 300RandomDonk antes 300IamMerkinValdez antes 300DBmeplz antes 300the_bale antes 300Smurf_Fla posts the small blind of 1,200RandomDonk posts the big blind of 2,400The button is in seat #4*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to DBmeplz [Ks Kd]IamMerkinValdez foldsSmurf_Fla has reconnectedDBmeplz has 15 seconds left to actDBmeplz raises to 6,100the_bale foldsastonwilli foldsLuckyLukeKK raises to 19,821, and is all inwhatariver1 foldsBernie Kosar foldsSmurf_Fla foldsRandomDonk foldsDBmeplz calls 13,721LuckyLukeKK shows [Tc Ad]DBmeplz shows [Ks Kd]*** FLOP *** [9c 6d 7h]*** TURN *** [9c 6d 7h] [3s]*** RIVER *** [9c 6d 7h 3s] [Kc]LuckyLukeKK shows Ace King highDBmeplz shows three of a kind, KingsDBmeplz wins the pot (45,942) with three of a kind, KingsLuckyLukeKK stands up*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 45,942 | Rake 0Board: [9c 6d 7h 3s Kc]Seat 1: astonwilli folded before the FlopSeat 2: LuckyLukeKK showed [Tc Ad] and lost with Ace King highSeat 3: whatariver1 folded before the FlopSeat 4: Bernie Kosar (button) folded before the FlopSeat 5: Smurf_Fla (small blind) folded before the FlopSeat 6: RandomDonk (big blind) folded before the FlopSeat 7: IamMerkinValdez folded before the FlopSeat 8: DBmeplz showed [Ks Kd] and won (45,942) with three of a kind, KingsSeat 9: the_bale folded before the Flop

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ha, nice edit. anyways, sure ive been upset and i might say something similiar to "how can you call there" but i always say good hand and good luck. and still after you know hes a forum member you dont apologize for the way you acted at the table or wish him good luck

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lameFull Tilt Poker Game #7116741585: $750,000 Guarantee (52052157), Table 279 - 1200/2400 Ante 300 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:48:56 ET - 2008/07/06Seat 1: astonwilli (40,499)Seat 2: E-money (52,672)Seat 3: whatariver1 (18,914)Seat 4: love4u012 (148,452)Seat 5: Smurf_Fla (61,302)Seat 6: RandomDonk (29,646)Seat 7: IamMerkinValdez (36,030)Seat 8: DBmeplz (167,890)Seat 9: the_bale (22,780)astonwilli antes 300E-money antes 300whatariver1 antes 300love4u012 antes 300Smurf_Fla antes 300RandomDonk antes 300IamMerkinValdez antes 300DBmeplz antes 300the_bale antes 300DBmeplz posts the small blind of 1,200the_bale posts the big blind of 2,400The button is in seat #7*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to DBmeplz [7d 7c]astonwilli foldsE-money foldswhatariver1 foldslove4u012 foldsSmurf_Fla foldsRandomDonk raises to 29,346, and is all inIamMerkinValdez foldsDBmeplz raises to 167,590, and is all inthe_bale foldsDBmeplz shows [7d 7c]RandomDonk shows [Jh 8s]Uncalled bet of 138,244 returned to DBmeplz*** FLOP *** [Kh Qs Qc]*** TURN *** [Kh Qs Qc] [Ah]*** RIVER *** [Kh Qs Qc Ah] [8h]DBmeplz shows two pair, Queens and SevensRandomDonk shows two pair, Queens and EightsRandomDonk wins the pot (63,792) with two pair, Queens and Eights*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 63,792 | Rake 0Board: [Kh Qs Qc Ah 8h]Seat 1: astonwilli folded before the FlopSeat 2: E-money folded before the FlopSeat 3: whatariver1 folded before the FlopSeat 4: love4u012 folded before the FlopSeat 5: Smurf_Fla folded before the FlopSeat 6: RandomDonk showed [Jh 8s] and won (63,792) with two pair, Queens and EightsSeat 7: IamMerkinValdez (button) folded before the FlopSeat 8: DBmeplz (small blind) showed [7d 7c] and lost with two pair, Queens and SevensSeat 9: the_bale (big blind) folded before the Flop

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what about UTG + 2?
can utg+2 not be trying to isolate with AJs+ ?? i think the call is probly at the bottom of dinkdonk's calling range but he had the chips to gamble for a nice 20% chip stack increase.he loses hes still got 1mill he wins hes got over 1 and a half. not the worse call ever not the best either but thats how tourny poker is isnt it ?
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The more I think about it, its a call. Primarily because Wandi probably isn't open shoving QQ+, AK+. That opens up UTG+2 range as well.

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can utg+2 not be trying to isolate with AJs+ ?? i think the call is probly at the bottom of dinkdonk's calling range but he had the chips to gamble for a nice 20% chip stack increase.he loses hes still got 1mill he wins hes got over 1 and a half. not the worse call ever not the best either but thats how tourny poker is isnt it ?
i think dinkdonk had like 11 bbs unless i read the hh wrong
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