Greed Killed The Golden Tournement

[Robobluffer 0]

So the WSOP decides to delay The Main Event final table by 3 months. Obviously they didn’t really mean it, this is just a trial balloon until the poker world shows up on there doorstep with torches demanding this farce be stopped. Ah but they are smarter than the average bear. 1st they go to the select few poker pros, AKA ex poker players current spokesholes that have been shut out on main event bracelets fro the last 5 years, and tell them this is good for you. They tell them they will change the format of the most prestigious poker tournament in the world to essentially a huge satellite to a one table sitngo. If you (talking head poker pro) make it to this sitngo we will break the momentum of the feared armatures and semi pros. We will remove the exhaustion that allows said inferiors to play at you like they have a chance. We will give you the opportunity to review the play and find weakness in unknown players. This is your best chance and maybe only chance to take down the coveted main event bracelet. And all you have to do is shamelessly shill for us. You don’t even have to lie. You can say you don’t know how much money we are making than you make the case as if was losing tons. You can even argue that bringing tens of thousands of cash carrying confirmed gamblers to our casino presents some kind of logistical problem that is very distasteful and difficult for us to deal with. You can argue that it is unlikely that another casino would take this burden so thank the heavens Harrah’s is there for us. Just remember never to mention that not only is none of this TV of sponsorship money making its way to the prize pool but we are still taking our big chunk out of the players money but make sure to mention the extended hours of the coffee shop. Sheep love to graze after all.

[Loismustdie 0]

Paragraphs are your friend. Well defined thoughts is the result. Responses better than this you will receive.

[nutzbuster 7]

So the WSOP decides to delay The Main Event final table by 3 months. Obviously they didn’t really mean it, this is just a trial balloon until the poker world shows up on there doorstep with torches demanding this farce be stopped. Ah but they are smarter than the average bear. 1st they go to the select few poker pros, AKA ex poker players current spokesholes that have been shut out on main event bracelets fro the last 5 years, and tell them this is good for you. They tell them they will change the format of the most prestigious poker tournament in the world to essentially a huge satellite to a one table sitngo. If you (talking head poker pro) make it to this sitngo we will break the momentum of the feared armatures and semi pros. We will remove the exhaustion that allows said inferiors to play at you like they have a chance. We will give you the opportunity to review the play and find weakness in unknown players. This is your best chance and maybe only chance to take down the coveted main event bracelet. And all you have to do is shamelessly shill for us. You don’t even have to lie. You can say you don’t know how much money we are making than you make the case as if was losing tons. You can even argue that bringing tens of thousands of cash carrying confirmed gamblers to our casino presents some kind of logistical problem that is very distasteful and difficult for us to deal with. You can argue that it is unlikely that another casino would take this burden so thank the heavens Harrah’s is there for us. Just remember never to mention that not only is none of this TV of sponsorship money making its way to the prize pool but we are still taking our big chunk out of the players money but make sure to mention the extended hours of the coffee shop. Sheep love to graze after all.

So hard to read.Love the Yogi bear reference.And use of the word 'Fro.

[Robobluffer 0]

I guess your right, after all, scholarly diction and grammatical perfection is what internet forums are known for. Or perhaps, attacking the method is simply the ignorant mind’s lament when faced with a thought to which they have no reasonable response or experience with.

[Loismustdie 0]

I guess your right, after all, scholarly diction and grammatical perfection is what internet forums are known for. Or perhaps, attacking the method is simply the ignorant mind’s lament when faced with a thought to which they have no reasonable response or experience with.

Yup. You owned me. Harrahs wants to increase revenues, ESPN wants ratings. Crazy ****ing companies and there bottom lines. Damn them for making a buck. Damn them for using innovative ways to do so.

[SlapStick 0]

I guess your right, after all, scholarly diction and grammatical perfection is what internet forums are known for. Or perhaps, attacking the method is simply the ignorant mind’s lament when faced with a thought to which they have no reasonable response or experience with.

Well at least you have the rest of the being on on an internet forum down.Just paragraph it so it is an easier read. Not too much to get offended over.

[Franchise632 0]

I guess your right, after all, scholarly diction and grammatical perfection is what internet forums are known for. Or perhaps, attacking the method is simply the ignorant mind’s lament when faced with a thought to which they have no reasonable response or experience with.

Nope the same argument has been made a bout a thousand times already and its just much more fun to attack the method. That is what internet forums are known for. Or I guess we could have the same debate that is being had in say 40 or 50 other topics. Too on the noes? And not having paragraphs is really, really annoying!

[Franchise632 0]

Yup. You owned me. Harrahs wants to increase revenues, ESPN wants ratings. Crazy ****ing companies and there bottom lines. Damn them for making a buck. Damn them for using innovative ways to do so.

HAHAHAHAHAHA You got owned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Robobluffer 0]

Is it more fun or just easier?

[Patricio87 0]

don't they make enough money already. Can someone do the math?like 10,000 dollars time let's say 4000 cause alot of people sattelite into it.so that makes 40,000,000.Minus the prize pool.Also add in the Horse event. Which is something like 50,000 times 400 which is 20,000,000 minus the 2 mill top prize. also ESPN probably pays Harrah's a little to film in their casino.Not to mention all the other money made off the other events and all the degenerates attracted during the series to play games like blackjack and stuff.

[Ouch-8s 4]

don't they make enough money already. Can someone do the math?like 10,000 dollars time let's say 4000 cause alot of people sattelite into it.so that makes 40,000,000.Minus the prize pool.Also add in the Horse event. Which is something like 50,000 times 400 which is 20,000,000 minus the 2 mill top prize. also ESPN probably pays Harrah's a little to film in their casino.Not to mention all the other money made off the other events and all the degenerates attracted during the series to play games like blackjack and stuff.

don't forget all the quarters people put into the pay phones on their properties, those all go right into Harrah's pockets too.

[ShakeZuma 585]

don't forget all the quarters people put into the pay phones on their properties, those all go right into Harrah's pockets too.

and the parking! WHAT ABOUT THE FUCKING PARKING?!

[Franchise632 0]

Is it more fun or just easier?

Why cant it be both??And in the end it doesn't much matter....if this idea is a failure then they will go back to the old way and if it works it will probably be great for poker. So big deal...not like any of the ppl that are complaining about this are likely to really be affected by this decision anyway. But hey its fun to complain about stuff, I used to get paid for it and hope to again soon!!

[Nimue1995 1]

Yep it's all about the money. And damn but that's what the players are playing for too. dumbass hypocrites anyway.

[Southern Buddhist 1]

For the record, it's:"You're right," not "your right""Their bottom lines," not "there bottom lines"and "Tournament," not "tournement"But I don't hold it against fallen angels, especially when they're right. Actually, I don't hold it against anyone, because it's the internet and I understand rules are relaxed, but I make my living writing and proofreading, so I can't help but notice.At any rate, your idea is weak no matter how you line-break it or spell it. The "powers that be" are looking at the fact that every poker show on TV has solid ratings for its network, except for the Main Event Final Table, and maybe -- just maybe -- that's because we have already known for weeks who won, and that takes a little of the thrill out of watching it. They want the maximum ratings and yes, they want profits, because they're investing money in managing and televising this event for your viewing pleasure.Aside from that, you say "ex poker players" have been told that this will benefit them. Um, how, since you call them EX-players? Does a change in current boxing rules benefit Muhammad Ali, or a change in basketball rules benefit Dr. J?Then you said, "If you (talking head poker pro) make it to this sitngo we will break the momentum of the feared armatures and semi pros." Since nothing about the tournament will be at all different except the final table, and pros have had only a little presence at the FT in a few years, what makes you think that this change will suddenly fill the table with pros?Next, "we will remove the exhaustion." How is exhaustion exactly a fundamental part of the game of poker, rather than an incidental side effect of it? And how does removing it equally for every FT player benefit pros more? Are you arguing that their play collapses more when they're exhausted than an amateur's does? Or that pros are more susceptible to exhaustion? Neither argument seems convincing to me. You might be saying that amateurs make hail Mary moves they shouldn't when they're exhausted and sometimes they get lucky. That may be, but I'm not sure that a series of dumb moves prompted by wooziness makes for a great game.Then you argue that pros will be able to "review the play and find weaknesses in unknown players." I imagine that all these pros, who will miraculously make the FT this year despite nothing having changed about getting there from recent years, COULD spend three months combing through every camera's footage to find those unknown players in a field of 6,000 and watch their every play. Then again, so could the amateurs at that final table, and they have the pros on television in other tournaments to watch, as well, or their books to read, so they have far more research at their fingertips. More likely, NOBODY at the final table would be allowed to review camera footage.Don't be so paranoid. This isn't some conspiracy of the WSOP and pros. It's an attempt to raise ratings, pure and simple, by making the outcome a surprise.

[llou 0]

By the time I get to this forum at night, I am too to decipher multiple paragraphs blurred into one paragraph.Did the OP say anything remotely interesting?

[Nimue1995 1]

By the time I get to this forum at night, I am too to decipher multiple paragraphs blurred into one paragraph.Did the OP say anything remotely interesting?

Nothing that hadn't been hashed over in a dozen other threads. And yeah I plowed through the whole freaking thing to find that out. What a waste of about a minute or so of my life. I have too few of those to spare, thank you.

[gruven 530]

Thirty years ago, the main event was 30 guys, and a corresponding prize pool. Now, the main event is 5-10 THOUSAND players and a first prize pushing 10 million. WHY? because of television. Would you like to revert back to 30 players? Or perhaps take it to 15000 players and a first prize of 25 million? Let tv continue to push the event to the masses. They're making ALL of us more money...

[SlapStick 0]

Thirty years ago, the main event was 30 guys, and a corresponding prize pool. Now, the main event is 5-10 THOUSAND players and a first prize pushing 10 million. WHY? because of television. Would you like to revert back to 30 players? Or perhaps take it to 15000 players and a first prize of 25 million? Let tv continue to push the event to the masses. They're making ALL of us more money...

Fair point, but all this effort and we'll still know the result before it airs

[JustDoIt 10]

Thirty years ago, the main event was 30 guys, and a corresponding prize pool. Now, the main event is 5-10 THOUSAND players and a first prize pushing 10 million. WHY? because of television. Would you like to revert back to 30 players? Or perhaps take it to 15000 players and a first prize of 25 million? Let tv continue to push the event to the masses. They're making ALL of us more money...

The other side of the coin. Good Read.http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/poker/colum...&id=3384291