jesus_ 0 Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 You weren't a dude... you were God. I'm surprised you didn't know that.You have so much to learn, my son. Do not presume to know things about stuff such as this. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 ok, the lady shooting Craps made a big splash in the news by holding the dice for over 4 hours. An incredible feat breaking a 20-year old record. The casino tallied her consecutive roll total.She made 154 rolls without 'sevening out'. I have no math savvy so I don't know if it's correct to say I'm asking for you to compute the odds of probability or occurrence but I would be interested in knowing what the odds are for her feat?30 combinations work for anything but a 7 to be rolled, 6 combinations create the 7 that ends the game - which she avoided 154 times.This has to be a mind-blowing number, one would think.Thanks.**Edit: It's assumed these were legal, casino dice, too. Otherwise if 'loaded' dice were used, we would be reading about her obituary instead of this record.I don't see the big deal here.At the Indian Casinos it's not uncommon for a guy to hold the roll for 6-7 hours straight.Of course the roll is acutally the shuffling of 2 sets of six cards.and the 'roll' is held until the 7 old guys can make 22 changes to their hard way rolls, which is a requirement to do EVERY SINGLE ROLLL for the remote chance that they might have THOUGHT OF A REASON to change any of their bets, but if they didn't act on that thought and the thing they were thinking about happened..then they would probably DIE. So 154 times per roll there are pressed bets moved to the other bet with this bet taken off and this bet moved all with SINGLE DOLLAR CHIPS while I have $140 spread out over two come bets with full odds and the pass line with full odds.So yea, 10 minutes between rolls if status quo. So my question for LLY is how many years off my life did I lose by subjecting myself to this torture per hour? Link to post Share on other sites
LongLiveYorke 38 Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 I seriously can't believe I was never taught anything about him in school. I mean, I've heard of a Tesla Coil, but that was only because of Command & Conquer Red Alert.Yeah, that thing was pretty devastating to enemy infantry.That dude was such an intellectual badass.I know. And David Bowie played him in The Prestige. So, he's got that going for him as well. Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 What kind of machine would he have used to do this, that he could destroy with a sledgehammer? That all sounds very very interesting.??? Link to post Share on other sites
LongLiveYorke 38 Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 ???Beats me...?"Electro-mechanical oscillator" sounds like some sort of giant magnet combined with some sort of motor that was attached to his building and ended up shaking a lot. But it shaked in a way that didn't shake his building but rather the buildings next to his. Link to post Share on other sites
jeff_536 3 Posted July 10, 2009 Share Posted July 10, 2009 Yeah, that thing was pretty devastating to enemy infantry.I know. And David Bowie played him in The Prestige. So, he's got that going for him as well.Such a disappointing end to that movie. Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Beats me...?"Electro-mechanical oscillator" sounds like some sort of giant magnet combined with some sort of motor that was attached to his building and ended up shaking a lot. But it shaked in a way that didn't shake his building but rather the buildings next to his.How the crap would that shake all the buildings around him!?!? I'm all confused again now. Link to post Share on other sites
uncooper 1 Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 How the crap would that shake all the buildings around him!?!? I'm all confused again now.The way I interpret that passage, I think the windows of the adjacent buildings were rattling violently more than any "building-shaking" that you are envisioning. Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 68 Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 In this case, it's R to the p, meaning the Real Numbers to the pth powerAre you or they using 'p' there for a specific reason? Don't people usually say, 'To the nth power?' The reason I'm asking is because, pronounced in one's head, 'pth' sounds retarded (no offense).'ENTH''PEETH' So whats going on here with this peeth power?Also, 'R to the P' sounds like it's a rap lyric. If math were more like rap it would be more popular. Just throwing that out there. Link to post Share on other sites
LongLiveYorke 38 Posted July 11, 2009 Share Posted July 11, 2009 Also, 'R to the P' sounds like it's a rap lyric. If math were more like rap it would be more popular. Just throwing that out there.This Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Dear LLY, Wormholes. I'm skeptical. Convince me.Also, If I'm watching a "documentary" on NatGeo, about relativity theory, and they use the phrase " begs the question" as a synonym of "asks the question", should I trust the content of this documentary? Link to post Share on other sites
LongLiveYorke 38 Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Wormholes. I'm skeptical.You should be. They're purely theoretical...if even that. Anyone who says otherwise is trying to sell you something or is some bad cable show that wanted a chance to use cool graphics. Almost no one really thinks about them actively as a part of real research.Also, If I'm watching a "documentary" on NatGeo, about relativity theory, and they use the phrase " begs the question" as a synonym of "asks the question", should I trust the content of this documentary?Probably not. But then again, I don't trust anyone who doesn't use an Oxford Comma, so there. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 You should be. They're purely theoretical...if even that. Anyone who says otherwise is trying to sell you something or is some bad cable show that wanted a chance to use cool graphics. Almost no one really thinks about them actively as a part of real research.Probably not. But then again, I don't trust anyone who doesn't use an Oxford Comma, so there.Yeah, this documentary was tilting me, and I know barely anything about astro-physics ( for example, I don't know if the word " astro-physics" is even still used or not). I figured that worm holes are just something they throw in to appease the Star trek fans and pulp sci fi novel readers that make up the bulk of who was viewing the documentary. Link to post Share on other sites
vbnautilus 48 Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Also, If I'm watching a "documentary" on NatGeo, about relativity theory, and they use the phrase " begs the question" as a synonym of "asks the question", should I trust the content of this documentary?This totally tilts me, mostly because when you try to use this phrase properly, everyone thinks you are trying to say "asks the question". Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 68 Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 I have a sort of general question. What is your prediction on space travel in the near or not so near future? Given the exponential nature of technological advances, and assuming a brand-new breakthrough of some effect in the next 30+ years, how fast/far do you think we'll be sending robots out, and then going out ourselves? Do you think interstellar travel could become a reality? Seeing as how Star Trek apparently lied to me about wormholes, what would interstellar travel really be like? What are the stars in our neighborhood like, and how long would it take to get to one? 10-15 years, or would it take generations? Also, I know you're not a futurologist (I bet you wish you were though, I know I do), but do you have any sort of predictions on a massively insane new technology that could power something, or move something fast, or whatever? You don't have to answer all of those questions individually or at all, just throwing them out there. Link to post Share on other sites
James D 0 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 I have a sort of general question. What is your prediction on space travel in the near or not so near future? Given the exponential nature of technological advances, and assuming a brand-new breakthrough of some effect in the next 30+ years, how fast/far do you think we'll be sending robots out, and then going out ourselves? Do you think interstellar travel could become a reality? Seeing as how Star Trek apparently lied to me about wormholes, what would interstellar travel really be like? What are the stars in our neighborhood like, and how long would it take to get to one? 10-15 years, or would it take generations? Also, I know you're not a futurologist (I bet you wish you were though, I know I do), but do you have any sort of predictions on a massively insane new technology that could power something, or move something fast, or whatever? You don't have to answer all of those questions individually or at all, just throwing them out there.I'm not quite sure why space exploration doesn't get the coverage it deserves. I'd much prefer we (the people of the earth) spent more time and money exploring what's out there, rather than wasting our lives at war and stuff - oh, thats sounded a bit more hippy-ish than I would have liked, meh.There's been many more interesting discoveries imo, since the moon landings, but which haven't had a hundreth of the coverage they received. We've got many probes out there, we've landed on Titan... a much more interesting moon than our own, landed on Mars, and we've got the Voyager on its way out to the outer reaches of our solar system. I may be wrong, but I think for the forseeable future and probably the rest of our lifetime, we'll concentrate more on unmanned space exploration. It's just impossibe to take a human out that far, which kind of defeats the purpose.As to your question about how long it would take to get to our nearest star, well it's 4 light years away. Which would take about 50-60,000 years based on the speed of our current space probes. And there's 100 billion stars in our galaxy... so yeah, LLY really needs to get onto that and invent something a little quicker. Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 68 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Yeah I guess a big part of my question that I didn't say explicitly is, how fast is it theoretically possible for a manned or unmanned ship to travel? In your opinion, obviously. I know that there's not like a specific answer. Also, do you think any kind of time travel could be possible, and if yes (I'm not saying I think that you'll say yes), could that somehow be used for space travel as well? probesHeh, heh heh. You said probes. Link to post Share on other sites
Yoda 1 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Yeah I guess a big part of my question that I didn't say explicitly is, how fast is it theoretically possible for a manned or unmanned ship to travel? In your opinion, obviously. I know that there's not like a specific answer. Also, do you think any kind of time travel could be possible, and if yes (I'm not saying I think that you'll say yes), could that somehow be used for space travel as well?I think I remember a pretty solid discussion of this earlier in the thread. Something about a human traveling at the speed of light which actually would be time traveling relative to everybody else. Link to post Share on other sites
LongLiveYorke 38 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 I have a sort of general question. What is your prediction on space travel in the near or not so near future? Given the exponential nature of technological advances, and assuming a brand-new breakthrough of some effect in the next 30+ years, how fast/far do you think we'll be sending robots out, and then going out ourselves? Do you think interstellar travel could become a reality? Seeing as how Star Trek apparently lied to me about wormholes, what would interstellar travel really be like? What are the stars in our neighborhood like, and how long would it take to get to one? 10-15 years, or would it take generations? Also, I know you're not a futurologist (I bet you wish you were though, I know I do), but do you have any sort of predictions on a massively insane new technology that could power something, or move something fast, or whatever? You don't have to answer all of those questions individually or at all, just throwing them out there.I don't really see it happening. I see us having some sort of base on the moon and possibly having regular trips to Mars and back. But everything else is just too far away. It would take several lifetimes to get to a planet outside of our solar system. We could possibly send probes to explore them for us. I potentially see us sending out thousands of extremely advanced proves to study the nearest habitable planets, but it would be a project that would take generations. For a long, looong time, I think we're stuck with the Earth. So, try to enjoy it, will ya. Link to post Share on other sites
LongLiveYorke 38 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Yeah I guess a big part of my question that I didn't say explicitly is, how fast is it theoretically possible for a manned or unmanned ship to travel? In your opinion, obviously. I know that there's not like a specific answer.Well, if you're in space, there's no friction to hold you back. Since a lot of how we view speed on Earth is based on friction, one may not have a good intuition of how it works. Speeds on Earth max out because wind resistance matches the force that the engine can produce. That of course doesn't happen in space. However, there are several interesting limiting factors to deal with:1) Acceleration - If we are talking about sending people out into space, we will need to be very conscious of how much acceleration their bodies can withstand. Sitting here on my desk, I'm accelerating at 9.8 m/s/s. If a person is in a ship that is accelerating at that rate, he will feel normal gravity. Any more acceleration and he will start to become very heavy, and it will certainly have adverse effects on his health. I would imagine that one would not want to accelerate a person more than 10 m/s/s for long periods of time (and the trip would take years). So, no matter how good of a ship we make, we can only really make it go so fast. You can't simply "jump to light speed" because that would instantly kill everyone on board.2) Relativity - As you get faster and faster, relativistic effects come into play. The time that the people on the ship experience becomes very different than the time that people on Earth would experience. So, this actually does make it conceivable that we could send people out onto long journeys since they would experience relatively short amounts of time compared to people on Earth. For very long journeys, the difference becomes significant.3) Fuel consumption - Accelerating a ship for long periods of time requires a lot of fuel. Most of the ship would be designed to store fuel. I imagine that the perfect engine would be one that converts mass directly into light energy and then fires that light out the back of the ship. Anyway, this website has a pretty good but very mathematical discussion of the journey of a manned rocket sent out into space.http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Rela.../SR/rocket.htmlHere are some of the times you will age when journeying to a few well known space marks, arriving at low speed:4.3 ly_________nearest star____________3.6 years27 ly__________Vega_________________6.6 years30,000 ly______Center of our galaxy_____20 years2,000,000 ly____Andromeda galaxy______28 yearsFeul needed, assuming 100% efficient engine: 4.3 ly______Nearest star__________38 kg27 ly_______Vega_______________886 kg30,000 ly___Center of our galaxy___955,000 tonnesHere's a nice thing that does some calculations for you:http://spot.colorado.edu/~obrian/applets/Rocket/Voyage.html Link to post Share on other sites
El Guapo 8 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 I have a sort of general question. What is your prediction on space travel in the near or not so near future? Given the exponential nature of technological advances, and assuming a brand-new breakthrough of some effect in the next 30+ years, how fast/far do you think we'll be sending robots out, and then going out ourselves? Do you think interstellar travel could become a reality? Seeing as how Star Trek apparently lied to me about wormholes, what would interstellar travel really be like? What are the stars in our neighborhood like, and how long would it take to get to one? 10-15 years, or would it take generations? Also, I know you're not a futurologist (I bet you wish you were though, I know I do), but do you have any sort of predictions on a massively insane new technology that could power something, or move something fast, or whatever? You don't have to answer all of those questions individually or at all, just throwing them out there.I would ask Navybuttons, he is our resident futurist, when he is around. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Is this math porn? Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 If:a = ba2 = aba2 -b2 = ab-b2( a+b ) ( a-b ) = b ( a-b )( a+b ) = b( a+ a) = aa2 = b2=1???? Link to post Share on other sites
LongLiveYorke 38 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 If:a = ba2 = aba2 -b2 = ab-b2( a+b ) ( a-b ) = b ( a-b )Yes( a+b ) = b( a+ a) = aa2 = b2=1????No, you can't divide by (a-b ), because a=b, so (a-b ) = 0. Division by 0 is not allowed.This is basically saying infinity + 1 = infinity Link to post Share on other sites
James D 0 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Is the Universe infinate or finite? Link to post Share on other sites
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