Daniel To Support Mccain Over Hillary.

[PillyPill 0]

can daniel even Vote ?

yes

[PillyPill 0]

He can't. He said he couldn't in a different thread.

...or no...

[herokid7 0]

yes

negative.

[herokid7 0]

...or no...

Lol. it's okay. I was surprised when I found out, too. I think he's got dual citizenship here and in Canada, if memory serves, and a dual citizen can't vote, I guess.

[FCP Bob 1,321]

Actually, coming from someone who lived through Katrina, Bush did a great job. FEMA dropped the ball, Bush did all he could do. And Louisiana's state government is a joke. The Mississippi Gulf Coast was up an running virtually 3 months later...there's still spots in New Orleans that look like it got hit yesterday. Bush could only do so much, and I think he did the best he could for us.

I'll chime in from the sidelines on this one.In a crisis like this Bush should be judged on the quality of the people who he had in place to deal with the situation and the decisions that they made. Way to go Brownie.I think one of the things that historians will say about Bush is that like a like a lot of ideological Conservatives he has a general lack of respect for Government and the civil service and thus he doesn't see the importance of putting competent people in jobs and instead put in political hacks like Brownie who weren't qualified for their important positions.

[FCP Bob 1,321]

First of all, OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG DN replied to something I said!!! Humbled! Now, I want to challenge you a little on this. I do not believe that the majority of the world dislikes America, and my example is France. For years upon years, our relationship of and with France has been a little dicey (sp?). They did not really enjoy us, and vice versa. They recently had an election, and they voted to be led by a man who spent much of his campaign explaining his pro-American stance. On top of that, I also do not think most Africans, Asians, and so forth hate us. I think that there is a lot of groups around the world that hate us, but I think that the majority of world citizens see us as a power in the world. And if they hate us so much, why is out immigration rate so high? Just a thought, and I look forward to a reply.

The World doesn't hate America or Americans, they hate the Bush Administration for many reasons.You have to separate the American people from the American Government. In Canada I vote for the Conservative Party usually. I think it was the right thing for our country to send our troops to fight in Afghanistan. And I also think that the Bush Administration has been a total disaster in more ways than can be counted and he will go down in history as possibly the worst President in American history.

[nutzbuster 7]

Regardless of who Daniel sees as a best candidate for president one thing seems clear to me...Daniel, a Canadian citizen, a guy who can't vote, seems to really have a genuine passion for this country. Being a Vet, any time I hear a non US citizen espousing this kind of enthusiasm...well....it's all good in my book. oh yeah...Go Ron Paul!

[Balloon guy 158]

Hating America is Euro-chic. It is based on our being richer, stronger and prettier than the rest of the world. Exactly the same reasons we hate Britney Spears now.Wanting to believe that the liberal hatred of Bush is a world wide belief is ego-centric misguidance. Oh his presidency hurts us on the world scale.How?Our credit rating is irrelevant to what French bakers think of us. Our military bases are not voted on by local populaces. The Euro is a good example of the European community trying to beat us financially because they are more pro their own country than pro US. It's not personal, they are trying to compete with a juggernaut of economic power. No one said, oh they are joining their banking industries cause they hate us when they started the Euro under.....? Clinton in 1999. it was during his whole administration that they planned it and put it in motion. To pretend it was because of Clinton is as wrong as pretending they are preditorial in their trade practices against us because of Bush.The new French president vacationed in America cause he likes us. He's said so, so has the new German Chancelor. These two countries were the most vocal in 'hatred' for us, yet while Bush was still president, and when the Iraq war was still in full force, they now voice approval of us.This goes against the popular held belief that we are hated the world over. And they spoke directly of Bush when voicing their support, so this "They love the people, not the Bush administration" is baseless.Bush made many mistakes, mostly in my opinion in not talking more to the public about his actions during and after decisions. This is directly opposite from the stupidity of democrats and the liberal NY Times that brought up active US intelligence programs such as phone taps on people talking directly to known terrorist, to score political points and try to make Bush out to be a tyrant.Bush got thrown into 9-11 and made decisions that were not argued against by 95% of all the people who are now trying to say it was wrong, not the press, not the Democrat leaders, not Bill Clinton, no one. To give them a pass and Bush no credit for stopping any attacks on us since shows the bias of the accusers.Oh and his wife has been an extremely graceful, beautiful and classy first lady, something I missed during the Clinton admin.But I kind of like Obama, even though I think most world leaders will try to take advantage of his lack of experience to manipulate him and therefore harm the US. Hopefully he'll pick Dick Cheney to VP for him.

[nutzbuster 7]

Hating America is Euro-chic. It is based on our being richer, stronger and prettier than the rest of the world. Exactly the same reasons we hate Britney Spears now.Wanting to believe that the liberal hatred of Bush is a world wide belief is ego-centric misguidance. Oh his presidency hurts us on the world scale.How?Our credit rating is irrelevant to what French bakers think of us. Our military bases are not voted on by local populaces. The Euro is a good example of the European community trying to beat us financially because they are more pro their own country than pro US. It's not personal, they are trying to compete with a juggernaut of economic power. No one said, oh they are joining their banking industries cause they hate us when they started the Euro under.....? Clinton in 1999. it was during his whole administration that they planned it and put it in motion. To pretend it was because of Clinton is as wrong as pretending they are preditorial in their trade practices against us because of Bush.The new French president vacationed in America cause he likes us. He's said so, so has the new German Chancelor. These two countries were the most vocal in 'hatred' for us, yet while Bush was still president, and when the Iraq war was still in full force, they now voice approval of us.This goes against the popular held belief that we are hated the world over. And they spoke directly of Bush when voicing their support, so this "They love the people, not the Bush administration" is baseless.Bush made many mistakes, mostly in my opinion in not talking more to the public about his actions during and after decisions. This is directly opposite from the stupidity of democrats and the liberal NY Times that brought up active US intelligence programs such as phone taps on people talking directly to known terrorist, to score political points and try to make Bush out to be a tyrant.Bush got thrown into 9-11 and made decisions that were not argued against by 95% of all the people who are now trying to say it was wrong, not the press, not the Democrat leaders, not Bill Clinton, no one. To give them a pass and Bush no credit for stopping any attacks on us since shows the bias of the accusers.Oh and his wife has been an extremely graceful, beautiful and classy first lady, something I missed during the Clinton admin.But I kind of like Obama, even though I think most world leaders will try to take advantage of his lack of experience to manipulate him and therefore harm the US. Hopefully he'll pick Dick Cheney to VP for him.

The odd thing is I am a conservative and I like Obama, as a person. I really am very impressed with this guy. Best choice for President? WAY too socialist for my taste, but if it has to be a Democrat for the next 4 years then I hope he's the one.

[Balloon guy 158]

The odd thing is I am a conservative and I like Obama, as a person. I really am very impressed with this guy. Best choice for President? WAY too socialist for my taste, but if it has to be a Democrat for the next 4 years then I hope he's one.

Me two

[JustDoIt 10]

First of all, OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG DN replied to something I said!!! Humbled! Now, I want to challenge you a little on this. I do not believe that the majority of the world dislikes America, and my example is France. For years upon years, our relationship of and with France has been a little dicey (sp?). They did not really enjoy us, and vice versa. They recently had an election, and they voted to be led by a man who spent much of his campaign explaining his pro-American stance. On top of that, I also do not think most Africans, Asians, and so forth hate us. I think that there is a lot of groups around the world that hate us, but I think that the majority of world citizens see us as a power in the world. And if they hate us so much, why is out immigration rate so high? Just a thought, and I look forward to a reply.

Good Point, Raise to Daniel

[Southern Buddhist 1]

Also, you said Bush used lies. Can you please define the word "lies"? In my mind, a lie is when you know something is one way, and conciously tell something else. Bush was given intelligence from numberous sources and using that intelligence to make his decisions, which have ended up not the best.

I'll give you just one that I think cannot be passed off as "bad intel." Bush and his administration knew for a fact that Saddam was not involved in the planning for 9/11, yet they managed to convince a substantial part of the US that he was during the run-up to war. If you want to call all the dozens (hundreds, according to one count) of other things they were wrong about just plain old "bad intel." then okay, but you're still left with the options that the administration is either a bunch of liars or a bunch of dolts, believing the wrong thing pretty much every time and incapable of finding out the right thing even with the full force of the American intelligence community behind them.

You want to vote for Obama because he will lessen our presence in Iraq. Won't that be dangerous? And what is this million dead you quote? How many died under the Sadaam regime? And why is it that when the news shows footage of supply groups coming into Iraq, people seem happy to see us there? And why do I hear people who lived in Iraq say how grateful they are that we are there, but I don't fear from Iraqi people how much they are unhappy with us there?

Weakening our presence in Iraq will lead to mass violence there. I'm pretty sure of it. But is your alternative NEVER weakening our presence there? Even Bush says he plans to draw down the troops soon. I think the violence is unavoidable, hence my example of the former Yugoslavia. I'd just rather we got out of the way of it than continue to be in the middle.The count of dead is highly controversial. I don't think anybody can claim to know the exact number for sure. I'm quoting the Lancet/Johns Hopkins study. It was criticized for a lot of political reasons, but its methodology was a standard method accepted by the sociology community. Other figures have ranged from as "low" as 88,000 (by the British group Iraq Body Count, which counts only deaths reported in newspapers, which is not a standard method) to as high as 500,000 (by the World Health Organization, which had access to parts of Iraq and interviewed families). I'll admit I can't know for sure. How many died under Saddam? Unfortunately, same answer, only with even less evidence. Nothing but wild guesses there.Why are people happy to get food? If you were hungry, you'd be happy to see a supply convoy, too. Are they eqally happy to see soldiers shooting unarmed people, or raping teenage girls, or even just taking over a private home because they want the rooftop vantage point it offers? Why don't you hear from Iraqis who aren't happy we're there? Maybe you're watching Fox News.They misspell the name of their channel. It's actually Faux News.As for Katrina, you're speaking from Mississippi. It's where all Bush's friends are, like Haley Barbour and a Republican government. My opinion, FWIW, is that the administration helped its friends and let partisan politics trump the needs of people in New Orleans who could have been helped more. That's not presidential leadership, that's playground immaturity, and it's playing with people's lives. I agree totally that FEMA is Bush's responsibility, and he put in charge people who were not competent for the job because he honestly didn't care how competent they were. To do that to the national emergency management agency after 9/11 is the height of irresponsibility.

I want a president who can calmly deal with foreign leaders, not antagonize terrorists by saying, "Bring em' on, Wooooah nelly!!!!", be well spoken, be well liked, and be level headed.

Yes, me too, and that's exactly why you shouldn't support McCain over Hillary, should she win the nomination. As much as I admire McCain for some things, he has been known for years for his temper, and that's not what we need. Plus, you KNOW with McCain we do get another four years of war. I don't love Hillary either, but snubbing her isn't worth costing another few thousand soldiers their lives. But ditto, Obama can change the world's perception of the US, and that is very important. During the Clinton/Gore years, we really did have prestige and allies abroad. We brokered the peace in Northern Ireland, which is still holding. We built bridges and had allies and partners around the globe. The day after 9/11, we had world sympathy pouring in and even other nations flying the US flag. If another attack happened now, God forbid, do you think that would happen again, after eight years of Bush? I think it's genuinely sad that the answer is probably no.Last thing:

Daniel, a Canadian citizen, a guy who can't vote, seems to really have a genuine passion for this country. Being a Vet, any time I hear a non US citizen steping up and espouses this kind of enthusiasm...well....it's all good in my book.

Hell, yeah. People who can vote and don't make me so sad. I haven't missed a state or national election since I turned 18, and I never will. There may be people who think I'm the reason the country's going to hell, and I may think they are, but at least we're all in this fight together and we all care. More votes were cast for the American Idol finale in 2004 than were cast for president. Let's change that this time.

[JustDoIt 10]

Um, are you aware that McCain's nickname is Senator Hothead, and that Washington insiders say that: a) he has a vicious, hair-trigger temper; and b ) that temper may be the number one reason they don't think he should be president. People who have worked with him say that he just does not have enough self-control in that one area to be leader of the free world.I'll "come out" and say I am Lefty McLeft, liberal yellow-dog Democrat all the way, and a feminist to boot. The only time I've ever crossed party lines to vote was to make Christy Todd Whitman the first woman governor of New Jersey. All other things being equal, I'll vote for women, to begin equalizing the disparity in leadership. Also, it is generally true that men govern worse than their campaign promises, and women govern better, i.e., they promise less but deliver more.I am proud as hell that my country is at last ready to elect both a woman and an African-American, without freaking out over either. I'm happy to have that choice.That said, I'm supporting Obama over Hillary. I just find him more inspiring, more moving, more eloquent, deeper, more thoughtful, and more of a true leader. I like that he plays poker, although that doesn't matter to me as a voting issue (it just shows that he's real and knows how to have fun). Even as a feminist, I find Hillary too harsh and too backward-looking, mired in old ways of thinking. Obama is liberal, but he really has the potential to be that fantastical beast, the post-partisan leader. Hillary is all too partisan (and I'm saying that as a self-avowed partisan). I don't understand why either party shoots themselves in the foot every four years, when nominees get so bitter toward each other that the top nominee and the runner-up almost never appear on a ticket together. That seems to be the way to unite the party (whichever party it is) behind the campaign. I'd be all over an Obama-Clinton ticket, but it will never happen. But unless I'm f**king the candidates personally, I'm not basing my vote solely on their sexual equipment.McCain's not that bad as Repugnicans go. At least he's not interested in shoving his personal morality down my throat or looking up my vagina to make sure I'm not doing anything on the unapproved list. Maybe that's what makes him "not Republican enough" for the fundies, the fact that he actually believes in personal freedom and privacy.Y'know, the eye-rolling emoticon here is not cynical-looking enough...anyway...But his whole main issue is this war, against the wrong enemy, not capturing the real enemy after seven years, wasting over a million lives. Iraq only had a pre-war population of 27 million, meaning that roughly 20% of the country has been killed or fled as a result of this war. If that were happening in America, we'd be looking at sixty million dead. And Cheney thought we'd be welcomed as liberators???? Of course, he also thought it would be over in six months. And that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and maybe nukes and...or didn't the administration believe all their own lies?So McCain is wrong on this war, and the one thing I want the next president to do is get us out of it. [before someone says, "the surge is working": yes, it is. But the surge will end someday, and when it does, what do you think will happen? I'm guessing it won't all be peace and rainbows.] Because of that alone, I could never support McCain over Hillary. Eight more years of ever-expanding warfare is too much.

meaning that roughly 20% of the country has been killed or fled as a result of this warProve it please, that's the kind of stuff moveon.org is putting out.At least he's not interested in shoving his personal morality down my throat or looking up my vagina to make sure I'm not doing anything on the unapproved listRidiculous, the only people shoving morality are Secularist.But the surge will end someday, and when it does, what do you think will happen?It will be much more positive than if we had left before the surge. People in Iraq are actually figuring out that we are not the bad guys.blowing the cover of CIA officersPlease name one.what with the million deadthought it was 20% of 27 million people.Katrina"?????Answered well later in thread.Not happy with everything Bush has done but he is a man of conviction.

[nudist30 0]

What Obama can change:1: the world view of the USA. Like no other candidate, he is capable of turning world hate for America, no one else is even close IMO. That to me is as important as any of the issues, because frankly, I think the president, for the most part is a figure head. He doesn't have as much control as the public would think. I want a president who can calmly deal with foreign leaders, not antagonize terrorists by saying, "Bring em' on, Wooooah nelly!!!!", be well spoken, be well liked, and be level headed. There is ONLY one candidate that fits that bill IMO, and his name is Barack Obama. America's first priority should be to change it's world view, with that, all other things they need to accomplish will be easier: i.e. tacking the economy and acquiring willing partners to fight terrorism. From the perspective of world view, I don't know that this country has ever has a president more hated than George W. Bush. A change is needed badly, and that change is Barack Obama... PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE win Barack, PLEEEEEEEEASE!!!!!

Yo Daniel, I hate to say it but you are backing the wrong person. If anything OBAMA is not ready to be president. IF he were to become president he wouldn't know the first thing on how to deal with world leaders and especially with the situation in the middle east as I don't believe he has ever gone there like Hillary has to see what the situtation is first hand. Secondly, I find OBAMA to generalize every single issue that we face in America whereas Hillary has given specific details with how she will deal with the various issues that face America. You think about that before you go and say the things you say about OBAMA. The fact is Hillary has the support in many of the feb 5th states and that OBAMA is probably only at best win 2 or 3 states. Therefore OBAMA has no chance on becoming the nominee. The only way I would vote for OBAMA is if he starts coming out with details about how is going to deal with the various issues facing our country as president instead of generalizing everything.That said, yes OBAMA has an appeal to some areas of the nation but ultimately Hillary will win because she has alot better organization in the majority of the feb 5th states and will in turn have the lion share of the delegates. Oh one final note. OBAMA says that we don't want to set up a bridge to the 20th century again. Well if I remember correctly having the Kennedys on his side is a big bridge to the 20th century and the way he talks about Kennedy(who I feel was a great president) it sounds like that is how he is trying to deal with the future. Hillary has a clear vision and knows what she is going to do as President and has the best qualifications. Oh and one final jab at all you BUSH lovers and Republican lovers. Bring on Mccain. He doesn't have the first clue on how to deal with the economy. He wants more wars(said it on tv and in a speech), do we need 4 more years of another bush with more wars. I DONT THINK SO.

[ah2388 0]

i have always found it to be interesting that these foreign nations want to suck our sick as soon as we have contracts to give, money to spend, and have assumed the risks.Its also interesting that these nations were nowhere to be found when we were cutting teeth with the iraqi government in the beginning of the war.Perhaps these leaders in germany and france really are pro us, but its interesting to me that these people didnt have some influence on the public outcry and anti us feelings which were running wild in these countries during the first years of the war in Iraq.

[bsw 0]

Hating America is Euro-chic. It is based on our being richer, stronger and prettier than the rest of the world. Exactly the same reasons we hate Britney Spears now.Wanting to believe that the liberal hatred of Bush is a world wide belief is ego-centric misguidance. Oh his presidency hurts us on the world scale.How?Our credit rating is irrelevant to what French bakers think of us. Our military bases are not voted on by local populaces. The Euro is a good example of the European community trying to beat us financially because they are more pro their own country than pro US. It's not personal, they are trying to compete with a juggernaut of economic power. No one said, oh they are joining their banking industries cause they hate us when they started the Euro under.....? Clinton in 1999. it was during his whole administration that they planned it and put it in motion. To pretend it was because of Clinton is as wrong as pretending they are preditorial in their trade practices against us because of Bush.The new French president vacationed in America cause he likes us. He's said so, so has the new German Chancelor. These two countries were the most vocal in 'hatred' for us, yet while Bush was still president, and when the Iraq war was still in full force, they now voice approval of us.This goes against the popular held belief that we are hated the world over. And they spoke directly of Bush when voicing their support, so this "They love the people, not the Bush administration" is baseless.Bush made many mistakes, mostly in my opinion in not talking more to the public about his actions during and after decisions. This is directly opposite from the stupidity of democrats and the liberal NY Times that brought up active US intelligence programs such as phone taps on people talking directly to known terrorist, to score political points and try to make Bush out to be a tyrant.Bush got thrown into 9-11 and made decisions that were not argued against by 95% of all the people who are now trying to say it was wrong, not the press, not the Democrat leaders, not Bill Clinton, no one. To give them a pass and Bush no credit for stopping any attacks on us since shows the bias of the accusers.Oh and his wife has been an extremely graceful, beautiful and classy first lady, something I missed during the Clinton admin.But I kind of like Obama, even though I think most world leaders will try to take advantage of his lack of experience to manipulate him and therefore harm the US. Hopefully he'll pick Dick Cheney to VP for him.

[bsw 0]

Bush yes has made some mistakes. But if you listen to the liberal media everything is bad. How come all the good things going on in Iraq are not mentioned. It the Liberals that must be stopped. I do not want my goverment to run my health care. Through I am a poker player I draw the line on voting liberal. 9-11 would never have happened if it was not for the worthless president Billary Clinton. And to have his wife in power I too would rather have Obama then to see her in the white house again.As for all you out there that say the rep are only for the rich guess what, Job all come from the rich without rich people we have 0 jobs.

[nutzbuster 7]

Bush yes has made some mistakes. But if you listen to the liberal media everything is bad. How come all the good things going on in Iraq are not mentioned. It the Liberals that must be stopped. I do not want my goverment to run my health care. Through I am a poker player I draw the line on voting liberal. 9-11 would never have happened if it was not for the worthless president Billary Clinton. And to have his wife in power I too would rather have Obama then to see her in the white house again.As for all you out there that say the rep are only for the rich guess what, Job all come from the rich without rich people we have 0 jobs.

What cracks me up the most is that one of the Democrats key focus points of their campaigns is that they need to get rid of Bush, because he was so bad, as if they are running against him, as if Bush might get re-elected or somethingI want to know specifically what the Democrats are going to do differently, and HOW exactly they plan on getting their agenda implemented and paid for.Still waiting.....

[akoff 0]

9-11 would never have happened if it was not for the worthless president Billary Clinton. Can't be proven but I agree with you.And to have his wife in power I too would rather have Obama then to see her in the white house again.ugh shivers just thinking of herAs for all you out there that say the rep are only for the rich guess what, Job all come from the rich without rich people we have 0 jobs.true, however, as with everything else you do need balance

one other thought. Some like to talk about the rich being R and I don't believe that. I have several friends with big net worth that very active Democrats...it is a matter of your beliefs.If you truly believe that we can tax more, have the government distribute and mandate all social services and still continue to succeed then you should vote Dem. The reality is the system will crash and burn due to incompetence, greed and corruption. The truly rich will have the resources to escape and everyone else will be left holding the bag.That is a fact!!

[akoff 0]

Hating America is Euro-chic. It is based on our being richer, stronger and prettier than the rest of the world. Exactly the same reasons we hate Britney Spears now.Wanting to believe that the liberal hatred of Bush is a world wide belief is ego-centric misguidance. Oh his presidency hurts us on the world scale.How?Our credit rating is irrelevant to what French bakers think of us. Our military bases are not voted on by local populaces. The Euro is a good example of the European community trying to beat us financially because they are more pro their own country than pro US. It's not personal, they are trying to compete with a juggernaut of economic power. No one said, oh they are joining their banking industries cause they hate us when they started the Euro under.....? Clinton in 1999. it was during his whole administration that they planned it and put it in motion. To pretend it was because of Clinton is as wrong as pretending they are preditorial in their trade practices against us because of Bush.The new French president vacationed in America cause he likes us. He's said so, so has the new German Chancelor. These two countries were the most vocal in 'hatred' for us, yet while Bush was still president, and when the Iraq war was still in full force, they now voice approval of us.This goes against the popular held belief that we are hated the world over. And they spoke directly of Bush when voicing their support, so this "They love the people, not the Bush administration" is baseless.Bush made many mistakes, mostly in my opinion in not talking more to the public about his actions during and after decisions. This is directly opposite from the stupidity of democrats and the liberal NY Times that brought up active US intelligence programs such as phone taps on people talking directly to known terrorist, to score political points and try to make Bush out to be a tyrant.Bush got thrown into 9-11 and made decisions that were not argued against by 95% of all the people who are now trying to say it was wrong, not the press, not the Democrat leaders, not Bill Clinton, no one. To give them a pass and Bush no credit for stopping any attacks on us since shows the bias of the accusers.Oh and his wife has been an extremely graceful, beautiful and classy first lady, something I missed during the Clinton admin.But I kind of like Obama, even though I think most world leaders will try to take advantage of his lack of experience to manipulate him and therefore harm the US. Hopefully he'll pick Dick Cheney to VP for him.

BG you have missed your calling, you need a radio show and nightly spot on FOX!!

[herokid7 0]

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[herokid7 0]

The World doesn't hate America or Americans, they hate the Bush Administration for many reasons.You have to separate the American people from the American Government. In Canada I vote for the Conservative Party usually. I think it was the right thing for our country to send our troops to fight in Afghanistan. And I also think that the Bush Administration has been a total disaster in more ways than can be counted and he will go down in history as possibly the worst President in American history.

Bush is not the worst president in American History. Bush is the president with the worst luck in American history. In his first term, the worst attack on American soil happened. And in his second the worst natural disaster in American history happened. I'd like to see anybody overcome those odds.

[herokid7 0]

I'll give you just one that I think cannot be passed off as "bad intel." Bush and his administration knew for a fact that Saddam was not involved in the planning for 9/11, yet they managed to convince a substantial part of the US that he was during the run-up to war. If you want to call all the dozens (hundreds, according to one count) of other things they were wrong about just plain old "bad intel." then okay, but you're still left with the options that the administration is either a bunch of liars or a bunch of dolts, believing the wrong thing pretty much every time and incapable of finding out the right thing even with the full force of the American intelligence community behind them. Weakening our presence in Iraq will lead to mass violence there. I'm pretty sure of it. But is your alternative NEVER weakening our presence there? Even Bush says he plans to draw down the troops soon. I think the violence is unavoidable, hence my example of the former Yugoslavia. I'd just rather we got out of the way of it than continue to be in the middle.So do you honestly think the world is not a better place without Saddam? We declared war on terror. Saddam was a terrorist. He needed to be removed as soon as possible. We're not in this war for revenge. We're in it for freedom.The count of dead is highly controversial. I don't think anybody can claim to know the exact number for sure. I'm quoting the Lancet/Johns Hopkins study. It was criticized for a lot of political reasons, but its methodology was a standard method accepted by the sociology community. Other figures have ranged from as "low" as 88,000 (by the British group Iraq Body Count, which counts only deaths reported in newspapers, which is not a standard method) to as high as 500,000 (by the World Health Organization, which had access to parts of Iraq and interviewed families). I'll admit I can't know for sure. How many died under Saddam? Unfortunately, same answer, only with even less evidence. Nothing but wild guesses there.Why are people happy to get food? If you were hungry, you'd be happy to see a supply convoy, too. Are they eqally happy to see soldiers shooting unarmed people, or raping teenage girls, or even just taking over a private home because they want the rooftop vantage point it offers? Why don't you hear from Iraqis who aren't happy we're there? Maybe you're watching Fox News.They misspell the name of their channel. It's actually Faux News.As for Katrina, you're speaking from Mississippi. It's where all Bush's friends are, like Haley Barbour and a Republican government. My opinion, FWIW, is that the administration helped its friends and let partisan politics trump the needs of people in New Orleans who could have been helped more. That's not presidential leadership, that's playground immaturity, and it's playing with people's lives. I agree totally that FEMA is Bush's responsibility, and he put in charge people who were not competent for the job because he honestly didn't care how competent they were. To do that to the national emergency management agency after 9/11 is the height of irresponsibility.Now your just fabricating stuff. Bush cared about his friends???? Trust me. I may becoming from Mississippi, but the Louisiana border is only 30 mins away. New Orleans is only a 45 or 50 minute drive from my house. I have a lot of friends who live there. They know, just as well as any who lives in this region knows, Bush did all he could for us, and the Mississippi government was better prepared. Kathleen Blanco was a mistake to be voted in a Gov. of Louisiana, and the people there as well as she knew that. That's why she didn't run for Re-election this year...and a Republican won that election, btw, showing that the people of Louisiana see that the democrats royally screwed them in the @$$ after Katrina.Yes, me too, and that's exactly why you shouldn't support McCain over Hillary, should she win the nomination. As much as I admire McCain for some things, he has been known for years for his temper, and that's not what we need. Plus, you KNOW with McCain we do get another four years of war. I don't love Hillary either, but snubbing her isn't worth costing another few thousand soldiers their lives. But ditto, Obama can change the world's perception of the US, and that is very important. During the Clinton/Gore years, we really did have prestige and allies abroad. We brokered the peace in Northern Ireland, which is still holding. We built bridges and had allies and partners around the globe. The day after 9/11, we had world sympathy pouring in and even other nations flying the US flag. If another attack happened now, God forbid, do you think that would happen again, after eight years of Bush? I think it's genuinely sad that the answer is probably no.You do know that when Bush was re-elected, a couple of countries actually came out and said that, "The American people made the sensible decision." That quote was from Russia, I believe. Really, Bush has a good relationship with most of the heads of other countries, except maybe France, Iran, and North Korea...and we should just conquer France and make it our own, and nuke Iran and North Korea off the map(nah, I'm just kidding, we should nuke France, too )Last thing: Hell, yeah. People who can vote and don't make me so sad. I haven't missed a state or national election since I turned 18, and I never will. There may be people who think I'm the reason the country's going to hell, and I may think they are, but at least we're all in this fight together and we all care. More votes were cast for the American Idol finale in 2004 than were cast for president. Let's change that this time.I'm not gonna disagree with you COMPLETELY, but I am gonna disagree with you partially here. If you don't know the issues, and you don't know the candidates and what they stand for. DO NOT VOTE. Voting for someone who you know nothing about is even more irresponsible than not voting at all.

[nutzbuster 7]

Bush is not the worst president in American History. Bush is the president with the worst luck in American history. In his first term, the worst attack on American soil happened. And in his second the worst natural disaster in American history happened. I'd like to see anybody overcome those odds.

It would be an understatement to say he didn't have his hands full.

[El Guapo 8]

It would be an understatement to say he didn't have his hands full.

And to think he has done all that he has only working 30 hours a week, 24 weeks a year. Thats impressive.