StilettoNole 0 Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Honesty, I am really lost in this hand. I'll take any advise I can get on the way I played this.I have played with villian before and he plays fairly straightfoward and is solid. My image is solid.Full Tilt 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)Preflop: Hero is BB with , . 2 folds, CO checks, Button raises, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, CO folds, Button calls.Flop: (8.50 SB) , , (2 players)Hero bets, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, Button calls.Turn: (7.75 BB) (2 players)Hero bets, Button raises, Hero calls.River: (11.75 BB) (2 players)Final Pot: 11.75 BBI really have no clue where I am at. I put him on K-Js or K-Qs or possilby A-K also. Because of he just called my three bet on the flop, I didn't think he had a set.OK, thanks for the advise; I could use it! Link to post Share on other sites
RabidTortuga 0 Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Your range for him is too narrow. He raise on the button in a short handed game, which should mean his range is wide. On the flop I would narrow his range to include AK, KQ, KJ, Ax of hearts, Qx of hearts, JT, 98, 76, 99, 88, possible even AA, KK.On the turn we can probably eliminate the flush draws, KQ, and KJ, JT (unless it's JT hearts or 76 hearts)I play it the same, and check/call the river. The K didn't put us ahead of anything we were losing to, and we're still ahead of the few hands we were beating. The pot is too big to fold without a sick read. Link to post Share on other sites
KowboyKoop 0 Posted December 30, 2007 Share Posted December 30, 2007 Call down after turn raise....his range is too broad to fold...... Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 I play preflop, flop, and turn the same.The river is very interesting though, however, all it really changed was that we now beat 89, which seems unlikely anyways, given pf action. I certainly think a set is possible here, 88/99 are quite likely, imo. I think, in a way, that river card is somewhat bad for us, as now it's less likely he has another king (as it would be the case). I originally was thinking bet/call, but after looking deeper, it doesn't really improve our hand that much, so I c/c.PS - Hands with 6 or fewer players should be in the Short Handed Limit forum just below this one. Link to post Share on other sites
Mattnxtc 0 Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 I b/c the river Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 I b/c the riverWhy?What has the river changed?Why not 3-bet the turn? Link to post Share on other sites
Mattnxtc 0 Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 Why?What has the river changed?Why not 3-bet the turn?I dont disagree with not 3betting the turn...I probably would haveRiver now lets us beat 2 pair and we want to make sure we dont give a free check to 89 type hands. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 I dont disagree with not 3betting the turn...I probably would haveRiver now lets us beat 2 pair and we want to make sure we dont give a free check to 89 type hands.What two pair hands do we now beat?Villain raised from the button after a limp. He doesn't have 85o. 89 is literally the ONLY hand he could possibly have, and most players never raise that hand. We lose to every other Kx two pair hand, and of course a set still crushes us. Link to post Share on other sites
Bubba83 0 Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 Plus the read is that the villain is solid, I don't think it's 89 either and prefer check/call on river. Unless you think our villain will raise us on the turn with KQ/KJ after getting 3-bet on the flop, which based on the solid read I don't think he does. Link to post Share on other sites
Moneyball16 0 Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 What two pair hands do we now beat?Villain raised from the button after a limp. He doesn't have 85o. 89 is literally the ONLY hand he could possibly have, and most players never raise that hand. We lose to every other Kx two pair hand, and of course a set still crushes us.After the co post checked Id probably raise 98o most of the time on the button fwiw, but still the river doesnt change much in the hand and Id still c/c. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 el, I didn't notice it was a post/check, I prob raise almost any two there, lol. Still, most players at 1/2 don't think this way. Link to post Share on other sites
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