danc1984 0 Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 Yeah, there is a chance that a c-bet may chase out the smaller pairs as well right? or do you think the 33s and the 44s are coming along away?From my experience villain's with 66-99 think they have a great hand in this spot when the flop gets checked around.The key thing to remember though, is that we cannot always get value out of our monsters, sometimes our opponents holdings just do not facilitate it. There is nothing we can do sometimes, it just happens, try not to let it get to you when you flop a monster and it doesn't get paid off. This is especially the case with quads, you are often not going to get any value as it is so hard for your opponents to have anything reasonable here, basically something like 99 is the best you can hope for.Sklansky for one says that you should never ever slowplay when you flop the unbeatable nuts. His basis for this is that in the long run you will lose value by not fully charging hands that will pay you off, as opposed to the relatively few times you do actually trap an opponent. Link to post Share on other sites
Trillske 0 Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 Problem is, if you bet it even a random moron will put you on some kind of pocket. They might not believe you have a K, but the flop has pretty much no texture at all wich allways gives the aggressor a certain amount of respect and everyone gladly folds and waits for the next hand.I´d check it on that limit with so many PF-callers. Might even check it to the river and get tricky there instead in case no one has attacked the pot yet. Example of a possible outcome:Turn is an X, but river lands an A. Its checked around to you, and you make a tiny bet. Someone minraise you (with his "slowplayed" rivered A), you come back with an extreme overbet. To a bad player (wich he is if he minraise you in that spot) this screams that you share the ace and the voices in his head tells him to call for a split no mather the size of your bet. Similair might happen on the turn as well. Guess the point is that you will rarely get payed in that spot unless you get really lucky and are up against bad players. Might as well not rule out the possibility. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 Open fold when they check to you. It'll blow their minds. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 PokerStars No-Limit Hero??lol.I think since you raised PF, min-bet and hope an A turns and someone gets frisky with you. Some hands are beauties, but they just get no action. Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 Don't be ridiculous.If you c-betting when you miss with 4 to the flop you're daftwell that all depends on the texture of the flop and your reads Link to post Share on other sites
navybuttons 15 Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 didn't read replies.bet if you like money. check if you don't. Link to post Share on other sites
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