Merby 3 Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 Villain is 43/15 through 142 hands. He has a post-flop AF of 1.57.Does anyone fold this river? As far as I was concerned, his line on this hand could easily be a flush draw (I often see the min-raise in position from an opoponent who flopped a flush draw).Anyone play the hand differently at any point?PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)SB ($54.45)BB ($94.60)UTG ($55)MP ($49.25)Hero ($112.80)Button ($135.85)Preflop: Hero is CO with , . 2 folds, Hero raises to $2, Button calls $2, 2 folds.Flop: ($4.75) , , (2 players)Hero bets $2, Button raises to $4.5, Hero calls $2.50.Turn: ($13.75) (2 players)Hero bets $7.5, Button calls $7.50.River: ($28.75) (2 players)Hero checks, Button bets $26, Hero calls $26.Final Pot: $80.75 Link to post Share on other sites
AKProdigy 0 Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 I think its fairly standard. I might have bet around 9 - 10 on the turn. On the river, I think I'd throw in a blocking bet instead of checking to villain. Say throw in a half-sized pot bet and fold to a raise. You end up getting value out of your AA, and losing less if you were planning to call a pot-sized bet. If you think villain is prone to bluffing his draws on the river, I might check to induce a bluff. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 That's a really strange villain line. I can't think this is much more than a whiff or a 9. Might be 88 or JJ or some such thing. If you were inducing the bluff, why not re-raise once you got it? Link to post Share on other sites
AKProdigy 0 Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 [That's a really strange villain line. I can't think this is much more than a whiff or a 9. Might be 88 or JJ or some such thing. If you were inducing the bluff, why not re-raise once you got it?Because you won't get called by anything you beat. This is either call or fold. Link to post Share on other sites
Merby 3 Posted September 8, 2007 Author Share Posted September 8, 2007 That's a really strange villain line. I can't think this is much more than a whiff or a 9. Might be 88 or JJ or some such thing. If you were inducing the bluff, why not re-raise once you got it?I agree that it was a strange villain line. I was checking the river to induce a bluff from busted flush draws, but of the range of hands that the villain bets the river into me, how many of them still call my check-raise that I still beat? No busted flush draw is sticking around to call my check-raise. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 Because you won't get called by anything you beat. This is either call or fold.KK QQ JJ TT ......... Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 If you were inducing the bluff, why not re-raise once you got it?Do you even play poker? Link to post Share on other sites
psujohn 0 Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 KK QQ JJ TT .........All of those re-raise PF.If you put him on the flush draw you need to bet more on the turn and I agree about a 1/2 pot river bet/fold to a raise. Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 Do you even play poker?was thinking the same thingas for the hand I like repopping the baby raise on the flop instead of calling and leading the turn. at this point he isn't getting away from an overpair and is likely to come along for the ride.as played this could also easily be a busted flush so I simply call the river Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 KK QQ JJ TT .........you must have been drunk when you made this post. Link to post Share on other sites
Ricer98 0 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 I bet more on the flop. I'm curious why are we flat calling such a small raise on the flop, then donk leading the turn? Link to post Share on other sites
NoBBiR 0 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 Stt-t-t-t-t-tandard. Link to post Share on other sites
Money022 0 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 The only thing that seems standard about this hand is the preflop raise. Why aren't we c-betting more on the flop, reraising on the flop, and betting more on the turn?This could easily be a busted flush draw, but it could also be a 9. The mini-raise on the flop could easily be a hand like A9s or any suited connector with a 9 in it. Link to post Share on other sites
Craigdog 0 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 The only thing that seems standard about this hand is the preflop raise. Why aren't we c-betting more on the flop, reraising on the flop, and betting more on the turn?agreed, The bet on the flop of $2 is so weak your begging to be drawn out on... once he re-rasies you, I would have made a pot sized re-raise, if he calls then shove the turn... as played its a disgusting river card and tough decision due to poor play on earlier streets! Link to post Share on other sites
NoBBiR 0 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 That's true, I didn't notice the smallish flop bet. If you bet that weakly, you should be reraising his raise. Otherwise, it's fine. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Hero checks, Button bets $26, Hero calls $26.Final Pot: $80.75Merby, what's the result? Apparently, no one believes this is a big underpair to our AA. Link to post Share on other sites
NoSup4U 0 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Since you're oop, I would get more money in on the flop. If he's likely to bet the turn, I would check raise turn.As played, I call.Mark Link to post Share on other sites
Merby 3 Posted September 11, 2007 Author Share Posted September 11, 2007 Sorry guys, I forgot that I had posted this hand. Villain had [6d 9d] for trips and the pot. I totally butchered my approach --perhaps my foray into PLO has made me forget how to play the most standard NLHE hand. I led weak on the flop expecting a raise from this particular villain, ...and then failed to take control on the flop. Link to post Share on other sites
DrawingDeadInDM 0 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 If this line is standard, you play bad. 3-bet the flop, AINEC. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 If this line is standard, you play bad. 3-bet the flop, AINEC.... the flop, the turn ... Link to post Share on other sites
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