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[bdc30 0]

Non Showdown hand #3Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.25/$0.506 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $59.85Hero: $50CO: $60.30Button: $56.80SB: $61.80BB: $50Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with J T A 8 UTG folds, Hero raises to $1.75, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls.Flop: 6 2 9 ($5.5, 3 players)BB checks, Hero bets $3.5, CO raises to $12.5, BB folds, Hero calls.Turn: 3 ($30.5, 2 players)Hero checks, CO bets $24.5, Hero folds.Uncalled bets: $24.5 returned to CO.Results:Final pot: $30.5Villain is 85/2/2

[bdc30 0]

Non Showdown hand #4Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.25/$0.506 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $100.65UTG+1: $23.55CO: $48Hero: $50SB: $32.60BB: $44.45Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with T K 8 9 UTG raises to $1.75, 2 folds, Hero raises to $6, 2 folds, UTG calls.Flop: Q 4 6 ($12.75, 2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets $8, UTG raises to $36.75, Hero folds.Uncalled bets: $28.75 returned to UTG.Results:Final pot: $28.75Villain 17/7/4

[simo_8ball 0]

My stats for the 3,400 hands are 22.07/8.83/2.35 with +9.27 bb/100 profit.

Don't worry too much about the graph. You're winning at 9BB/100. Who cares what your graph looks like? It is skewed a LOT by playing style. Aggro players tend to run above expectation because they suck out a lot more often (they start with worse hands more often).All it means is that you're losing money in pots that don't go to showdown. When you're playing tight as you are, that's expected. You're showing down a lot more winners, so the sklansky bucks line will be pretty high. I'm not certain about the showdown winnings line though. I'll have to find out a little more about that.Don't worry about it though.Hand 1 is fine. You could argue for a call there, but I think folding is usually correct.Hand 2 I raise the flop every time. You have 13 outs against dry aces, and 15 against dry kings.Hand 3 I don't know why you're calling the flop.Hand 4 I like.

[simo_8ball 0]

I will admit to a small fist pump when he called the river (after using the full time bank).Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.25/$0.505 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $49.45CO: $41.85Hero: $112.25SB: $97.65BB: $51.40Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with K T 6 7 UTG folds, CO calls, Hero raises to $2.25, SB calls, 2 folds.Flop: 5 T K ($5.5, 2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $5.5, SB raises to $15, Hero calls $9.5 (pot was $26).Turn: 9 ($35.5, 2 players)SB bets $20, Hero calls $20 (pot was $55.5).River: 4 ($75.5, 2 players)SB bets $15, Hero raises all-in $75, SB calls all-in $45.4.Uncalled bets: $14.6 returned to Hero. Results:Final pot: $196.3Hero showed Ks Th 6h 7sSB mucks Ts Qc 4c Kh

[bdc30 0]

For hand 3, I had the gutterball draw, and the 9 on the flop was a key card to making any of my straights. Thought even if I could pick up some kind of a combo draw, I'd let it rip on the turn and go to showdown. Change the 3 to the 7,8,T,J,Q (with as super bonus) and I'd have gone all the way.

[simo_8ball 0]

Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.25/$0.504 playersConverterStack sizes:Hero: $91.30Button: $34.15SB: $19.70BB: $25.80Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is UTG with T A 5 9 Hero raises to $1.75, Button raises to $6, 2 folds, Hero calls $4.25 (pot was $8.5).Flop: 5 2 A ($12.75, 2 players)Hero checks, Button bets $6.35, Hero raises to $31.8, Button calls all-in $21.8.Uncalled bets: $3.65 returned to Hero. Turn: 9 ($69.05, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $69.05)River: 3 ($69.05, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $69.05)Results:Final pot: $69.05Hero showed T A 5 9 Button showed A A Q 6 This sucked, mostly because villain was 46/33/2.6.

[simo_8ball 0]

How do you play this?Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.25/$0.505 playersConverterStack sizes:Hero: $264.20CO: $41.50Button: $49.25SB: $40.40BB: $54.50Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with T K J 7 Hero raises to $1.5, CO folds, Button calls.Flop: K Q 4 ($3.75, 3 players)Hero bets $3.5, Button raises to $14, Hero calls $10.5 (pot was $21.25).Turn: 4 ($31.75, 3 players)Hero checks, Button checks.River: J ($31.75, 3 players)Hero checks, Button bets $10, Hero folds.Uncalled bets: $10 returned to Button.Results:Final pot: $31.75There are two things to note in this hand.1) Villain is BudBundy, back playing PLO!!!!2) I'm sat with $264.20 at a $50pl table. Which is always nice.

[bdc30 0]

With the diamonds, the open ender, top pair, the monster stack, and the chance to felt the immortal Bundy, I'm all the fk in on the flop there. lol

[bdc30 0]

This is what I want my graph to look like all the time... Today I played 22/8/3.5, 483 hands, 25.81 bb/100. I like right in the middle, and about 3/4 of the way through where my showdown line is flat, but I'm still bringing in some pots. That is what I visualize as "optimal" for a graph to be

[bdc30 0]

...and my last 30 days of plo...Like I say, I can't thank you guys enough for sticking with me through the first 45 pages or so of this thread, where I was playing poorly and passively at 25 and losing piles of money. I owe this graph and my recent success to your patience.

[simo_8ball 0]

With the diamonds, the open ender, top pair, the monster stack, and the chance to felt the immortal Bundy, I'm all the fk in on the flop there. lol

Yeah, I should have shoved. I immediately regretted the flat call. Usually I'm shoving anything there against him. I guess I saved money this time, but it's an easy shove in retrospect. Brainfreeze.(That's the first hand where I've really felt like I made a bad/questionable decision in a long while).

...and my last 30 days of plo...Like I say, I can't thank you guys enough for sticking with me through the first 45 pages or so of this thread, where I was playing poorly and passively at 25 and losing piles of money. I owe this graph and my recent success to your patience.

That's a nice graph. It's great to see it all coming together for you.

[BudBundy 0]

I had AQTx with nut flush draw in that hand. What do you guys think about getting the free card on turn? I did it because i think it helped me represent a monster while drawing for free so i could bluff a blank river if checked to me.

[simo_8ball 0]

Repop it preflop. Against a guy playing ~32/22 you can easily isolate there with a good 3 card hand. What was your 'x'?I like your flop raise obv.FWIW, I almost never have a boat on the turn there. Maybe KQ4x, but that's pretty damn rare. Oh, and maybe 44xx, but again, that's rare. I can have KQxx or any number of draws. Probably not a huge draw though because I'd shove that. Honestly, if it wasn't you, I would have shoved. I don't know what came over me.I was surprised when you checked behind, and I was suspicious of a FH, but I thought KQ or NFD were just as plausible.I think you should have bet the turn. I can't call, but I might catch on the river and c/c a bluff. Don't give me a free card.Why not try to take the pot there when a bet will be successful 90% of the time?

[bdc30 0]

DIdn't play many hands today. Ran goot though, and played solid. I like again that my actual winning line is above the showdown one.

[meservery 0]

Didnt convert, cause i wanted to leave the chat in.PokerStars Game #13751695450: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/12/09 - 13:52:30 (ET)Table 'Peneleos IV' 6-max Seat #6 is the buttonSeat 1: hohde ($26.70 in chips) Seat 2: UHave_3_Outs ($3.85 in chips) Seat 3: dragdime ($14.45 in chips) Seat 4: 5SpeedLimit5 ($76.45 in chips) Seat 5: ererevsym ($37.65 in chips) Seat 6: corllja ($19.95 in chips) hohde: posts small blind $0.10UHave_3_Outs: posts big blind $0.25dragdime: posts small blind $0.10*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to ererevsym [5h Ts Qh 9s]dragdime: calls $0.255SpeedLimit5: raises $0.95 to $1.20ererevsym: calls $1.20corllja: calls $1.20hohde: folds UHave_3_Outs: calls $0.95dragdime: calls $0.95*** FLOP *** [9h Tc 9d]UHave_3_Outs: checks dragdime: bets $0.255SpeedLimit5: raises $5.50 to $5.75ererevsym: raises $17.65 to $23.40corllja: folds UHave_3_Outs: folds dragdime: folds 5SpeedLimit5 said, "you got 1010?"ererevsym said, "no"5SpeedLimit5: raises $51.85 to $75.25 and is all-inererevsym: calls $13.05 and is all-in*** TURN *** [9h Tc 9d] [2d]*** RIVER *** [9h Tc 9d 2d] [Td]*** SHOW DOWN ***5SpeedLimit5: shows [9c 3h 4d Kc] (three of a kind, Nines)ererevsym: shows [5h Ts Qh 9s] (a full house, Tens full of Nines)ererevsym collected $76.35 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $79.35 | Rake $3 Board [9h Tc 9d 2d Td]Seat 1: hohde (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 2: UHave_3_Outs (big blind) folded on the FlopSeat 3: dragdime folded on the FlopSeat 4: 5SpeedLimit5 showed [9c 3h 4d Kc] and lost with three of a kind, NinesSeat 5: ererevsym showed [5h Ts Qh 9s] and won ($76.35) with a full house, Tens full of NinesSeat 6: corllja (button) folded on the Flop

[bdc30 0]

Had just a miserable last couple of days. No cards and the ones I do get aren't holding up. This is why I love pokerev though.

[bdc30 0]

Nice hand right at the end to make the day a winning one. Would have been nice to hold up with that earlier all in though. Stats still in line at 24/10/2.5

[simo_8ball 0]

I love making awesome reads.Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.25/$0.506 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $11.25Hero: $50CO: $50.15Button: $15SB: $22.55BB: $91Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with 3 5 5 6 UTG folds, Hero raises to $1.75, CO raises to $6, 3 folds, Hero calls $4.25 (pot was $8.5).Flop: K 9 4 ($12.75, 2 players)Hero checks, CO bets $10, Hero calls $10 (pot was $22.75).Turn: T ($32.75, 2 players)Hero checks, CO bets $32.75, Hero raises all-in $34, CO calls.River: Q ($100.75, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $100.75)Results:Final pot: $100.75Hero showed 3h 5s 5h 6sCO showed Jc Kc 9d KdCODubber: omgCODubber: I'm justSimo123: booooomSimo123: 5 high flush FTMFWCODubber: you call $2.5 pre with 55?LOLZ

[iggymcfly 0]

Pretty swingy night for me. This is all 6-max PLO and all at 1/2. The games on Stars were ridiculously good last night. Like pre-legislation good. I tried to call Simo in on the action, but by the time he got there, it was drying up. Anyway, here's my graph:

[simo_8ball 0]

Epic HU battle in its entirety:Full Tilt Poker Game #4455159026: Table Evora (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 7:55:36 ET - 2007/12/10cardsalive posts the small blind of $0.25Simo123 posts the big blind of $0.50The button is in seat #5*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Simo123 [9s As 7d 2s]cardsalive has 15 seconds left to actcardsalive is sitting outcardsalive has timed outcardsalive foldsUncalled bet of $0.25 returned to Simo123Simo123 mucksSimo123 wins the pot ($0.50)*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $0.50 | Rake $0Seat 3: Simo123 (big blind) collected ($0.50), muckedSeat 5: cardsalive (small blind) folded before the Flop

[simo_8ball 0]

There's a guy playing 75/25/2.5 on my direct left. He is calling every single bet I make, and bettign whenever I check.Unfortunately I haven't made a single hand in 45 minutes against him.The only one I had was K5xx on a KJ5 flop, and he called pot on flop and turn with K5xx also for a split.

[bdc30 0]

Who is "cardsalive"? Someone we know?

[simo_8ball 0]

No, he was just sat alone with $109 at a $50pl table, so I sat. He posted the SB and timed out.

[simo_8ball 0]

Ok, this hand seriously messes with my PokerEV graph, and it's a fault within PokerEV:Poker StarsPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.50/$16 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $121.50UTG+1: $283.45CO: $160.50Hero: $167SB: $150.15BB: $15Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with J T K 8 UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Hero raises to $4.5, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.Flop: 5 J 9 ($18, 4 players)SB checks, BB is all-in $10.5, UTG+1 calls, Hero raises to $59.1, SB folds, UTG+1 calls.Turn: K ($146.7, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $49.5, Sidepot 1: $97.2)UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.River: A ($146.7, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $49.5, Sidepot 1: $97.2)UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $66, UTG+1 folds.Uncalled bets: $103.4 returned to Hero. Results:Final pot: $146.7It says I made $13 sklansky dollars, but I won a net $80. It says I ran $67 above expectation for the hand when I didn't.

[bdc30 0]

Someone please tell me what the flying fuck just happened here?Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.25/$0.506 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $34.25UTG+1: $37.70Hero: $53Button: $26.75SB: $91.10BB: $47.75Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with K 9 K 8 UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, Hero raises to $2.25, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.Flop: 8 6 8 ($9, 4 players)SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $9, SB calls, 2 folds.Turn: 5 ($27, 2 players)SB bets $27, Hero raises all-in $41.75, SB calls.River: 4 ($110.5, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $110.5)Results:Final pot: $110.5Hero showed Ks 9c Kh 8cSB showed 7c Qh Ah 5c