Scott3705

I don't have the HH (at work) but this happened last night a few times... this is one instance and just one player.100nlCo raises to 3, I call in BB with KQBoard K25 J 5FLOP: C/C 5Turn C/C 12River C/C 20Villian shows 79. I mean, how can you not call light against people that play like this? Reminds me of the way 2/5 in AC used to be 2 years ago...bunch of LAGtard morons.

That would be me. I can fold trip over trips flush over flush, but can't fold Top pair to save my life.

Who is this?

Hachem won last year.... I've got my money on that Luckbox wearing the BoDog gear.

It's not that unreasonable to see a ton of people making hero calls now. Game's have gotten tougher, more aggressive and LAG has become the preferred style of play. There's a ton of players that raise suited connectors in position and 3-barrel w/ no pair and no draw, so it makes sense that we'd see more thin calls. There's a very strong argument that the best way to beat NL games right now is to TAG it up based on all the LAG players that think just because they raised with 68 suited and got paid off on a flopped str8, that they play LAG well. I don't have the patience to, but if I did, I wo

every set is in his limping range here. I don't like the push because I put him on a set here most of the time and you're not folding it. On the other hand, Villian has to overpush here to really price you out here. I think you're better off c/cing and folding when you don't hit and pushing when you do. You lose less when you miss and make the same when you get there.

Edited for worst math ever. Look at it as calling 18 into a 24 pot which is a little worse than 1.5;1. You need your ace outs to make the call, but u should probably discount them a little. 10.5 outs make it close. If u throw in a random e percent of the time he has a worse draw, will probably send it over

But i raised which looks like top pair??? The flush hits, he checks, i bet and he raises, i'm beat then? Why if the raise at the turn different than the river? They need the same strength as a value bet. I accept differences on how to play a hand. As said for the 4th time this thread, this is not standard for me. I was exploring what acid knight hit on, in that i can not play only sets and draws fast and still look to playa ton of hand behind this guy while trying to control the pot with marginal hands. I just picked up on the, raise the flop, because it doesn't look like a flush but it hel

He could be against a naked heart draw or combo draw with k or 10. I just have never found the upside of being right compensate enough for being crushed.

I turn into a nit on broadway flops like this and just give it up.

100 bb's is usually too short to fold. I think 3 is a fold more times than not, but slight donkishness makes me call it.

I must be dyslexic. I'm reading: Raising the flop makes it easier to sniff out a larger flush which makes a fold eaiser. While at the same time, raising the flop makes my hand look less like a flush and more like top pair... subsequently widening the range of hands that will push at me to include a ton of non-flush hands which would make it harder to fold a flush.

think i'm mis reading this... checking into the nuts is bad?

22:1 or is that just full ring? I don't know. My thought on it is that when you suspect your up against AA, it's more than 22:1 since the action is telling you villian has better than a random hand, so I don't think the % matters at all.in a 6-max game and 100BB's, i'm usually getting it all in preflop with KK. if I get 5 players all in in front of me before I get to act... well I still call and hope to hit a king. I've folded KK preflop a few times but I've been extremely deep doing it.

FWIW, whenever I've played in the NEG-O I've seen a ton of 3-betting post flop with overpairs. the boards draw heavy enough that villian can be pushing combo draws as well. I don't ever fold this... especially early in a tourney... and especially in the NEG-o

As stated in OP, against blank faced villian raising is my standard line. I'd been playing second pair, TP and one ace high passively behind and wanted to show a non-marginal hand played at the same speed as the hands I was trying to keep the pot small.Edit: Also, I don't think making my hand look like TPTK makes it easier to fold this.

Sick hand. I hate this spot, but I think given what you consider, vilian's tricky tendencies, you should be calling down. Against nittish type player, I'd say it's a fold, but against some one who's capable of trying to squeeze you out with a missed draw or something like that, I'd think his range is too wide and you have to call down. The other thing is that there are a bunch of 2 pair combos out there too.

Only thing I'm going to add is that 4-tabling has helped my tilt problems. You can see the variance spread out a little and a swing on one or 2 tables can be cancelled by a good run on another. Only thing is that while it's cut down on the number of times I feel tilt coming on, the times that I do get it. (when I'm running bad on all 4 tables) is much worse.

Not to divert from the OP, but there's two players in the pot. digest that and then pm me if you still want to. it's stupid to keep this in the thread.

I am fairly deep though. Not monstrous stacks, but I've still invested less than 1/2 my stack here. (Obviously not referring to the tournament sense of stacks.) I don't know how I shouldn't consider it. His move shows a lot of strength. Also, how does playing them passively change the flush over flush? are you telling me to bet/fold the turn? I don't agree with playing suited connectors fast to define your hand so that you can fold it like it's TPTK. It's too strong of a hand to play it that cautiously.Are you saying I'm not a thinking player?

At the river, my mind was grappling with the price I was being laid which was favorable, and the sheer size of the bet which was a full-buy in. I had a hard time thinking he would risk that much with anything a lot less than a flush. (psychological aspect of the size of the raise.) Any thought to how his bet looks like a blocker bet at first? I hadn't been attacking blocker bets or anything.Nice to the stamp of approval for the rest of the hand.

no, I mean 2.

I used to be only able to do 2 tables. I've gotten up to 4 now, but I think my winrate is probably hurting because of it.

some 1/2 players are bad enough that they're drawig to 2 outs here... some aren't, and yo0u're drawing dead. Reads on players.

Of course he could have a flush, but that's not really in my thought process until the river. I'm not "gripped with fear" the entire hand here. I'm assuming that I'm ahead here until he wakes up on the river. Also, me waking up on the river, I don't expect to see him come over the top here. I'm not smooth calling a flush on the river here with no pair on the board. That's just silly. Having slow-played the turn the river is an obvious raise. I shouldn't be calling if I think i'm behind afterwards just because I shouldn't raise if I intend to fold. If I'm folding, I think I'm ahead when