cdannons

Trust me, I stress tight play a lot in razz, especially early in a tournament and have won my fair share of razz tournaments, but the playing level in the negreanu open tends to be better than most tournaments and MUCH better than normal razz tournaments, but the main point of the play was, even if he can't lay down a hand, I'm still a favorite to win the hand going into the river, unless he is willing to call with a J low when I have 3 low cards showing and have played the hand like I have a real hand, he is gonna have to fold the river if he hits bad, and even if he hits good, I'm still draw

I started in late position with (7 7) 5. A player brought in with a Q and a J limped before it was folded to me. Now 7 7 5 is not a playable razz hand and J x x has me beat at the moment, but he can't see that I have paired cards so I look at this as a good bluffing opportunity and correctly complete the bet to 60. Everybody folds to the J who calls. I hit (7 7) 5 K and he hits (x x) J A. Even though as far as he knows this is a coinflip, he of course, bets anyway to force us to risk our chips. So now I still have great bluffing potential if he hits bad and I make the call (some of you may thi

Ok, sorry, but i'm still not risking that many chips on this, it's just not good poker, if you feel the need to call this, than you probably aren't much better than everybody else in the field. These guys in the small stakes tournaments give away chips left and right in much better situations. There is no need to risk your stack on this

he has AQ in the small blind after everybody folds and the dealer limps, you wanna fold???? No way, if you wanted to just call the blind, I wouldn't look down on that, I sometimes will just call from the small blind or check from the big blind to disguise my hand if I flop an A or a Q, but you're getting 5-1 odds on calling when you almost certainl have the best hand!! If you are folding this preflop here, you are playing WAY too tight

the chances are, nobody has anything that can call a raise. If they really are calling with all Ax and all Kx, then you are still not only a coinflip statistically, but you are the FAVORITE to win the hand because you are the aggressor. If they don't hit some kinda of pair (especially with Kx), they are going to have a tough time calling anything.

yeah my first thought was about 500, if he calls, you're pretty much done with the hand unless a J or maybe A or Q, maybe, come out. Even though you can generally expect me to make a continuation bet when only 1 player has called my preflop raise, I don't think a check is THAT bad here (but don't quote me on that)

Yeah that's based on Andy Bloch and Chris Ferguson's game theory

Actually I like your point, I'm now convinced check is the right move, as for the whole preflop situation, I didn't see the raise was so small, he should make it 3 bets if he's going to raise. But my point on getting blinded out didn't mean he was getting blinded out, it meant if you sit and wait for AK the blinds are going to eat your stack awfully quickly 4 handed. You're only going to get a hand better than QJ suited about 6% of the time, there is a good chance your hand is best and if you are waiting for a top 6% hand, you are going to see your stack drop awfully quickly 4 handed

Totally, agree, that's why I think this is more difficult than it should be. I'm very rarely a fan of min raises. As for fold, I think it's probably a good fold, but I think you set yourself up to possibly get bluffed out.

this is interesting, gotta go right now, but I'm gonna think about this, be back with my input later

very nice, now turn that $16,000 into $10,000,000

fold from the getgo, and fold to the all-in, no reason to risk your chips when you are hoping to be a slight favorite. small pocket pairs are much less playable when the blinds have increased this much. Even if you play them very well, it's hard to get paid off enough to make paying off the times you dont hit, and if you don't hit, it can be a tough hand to play. Say the flop comes like 3 3 6, you may want to keep playing the hand against a small bet even though you're up against something like 4 4, it's ust too risky, I saw throw it away, if not fold then at least raise to too see if you c

ah my bad, thanks for pointing that out, then yeah i wouldn't say a fold is too bad, but i still say call, being a blind an all, not to say i'm huge on defending the blind, but the discount has to mean something, and you do have a pretty strong hand, but now that i see it was raised, i like the thought behind folding

completely agree

and if anybody disagrees with what i've said i've love to hear your own theories on the bubble sittuation