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Middle Pair + Flush Draw On The Flop, Fd Bricks Turn


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#1 gfdsa146

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Posted 05 November 2007 - 03:07 PM

Villian is playing tight. Hasnt shown any hands down. In other words, i got no reads on him.I think the flop is obvious. Turn is what i want to know what to do about. My Q-high FD bricked the turn, so i have no idea what the right bet was. Is the river an auto-check? PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)MP ($2.81)CO ($2.54)Button ($0.64)Hero ($8.51)BB ($2.43)UTG ($4.66)Preflop: Hero is SB with Q :club: , J :D . CO posts a blind of $0.03. 1 fold, MP calls $0.02, CO (poster) checks, 1 fold, Hero completes, BB checks.Flop: ($0.09) Q :) , 5 :D , K :D (4 players)Hero bets $0.1, BB folds, MP calls $0.10, CO folds.Turn: ($0.29) 7 :D (2 players)Hero bets $0.2, MP calls $0.20.River: ($0.69) K :) (2 players)Hero checks, MP checks.Final Pot: $0.69

#2 Zach6668

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Posted 05 November 2007 - 03:08 PM

I'd v-town the river playing LHE.Not sure how that relates to this spot though.
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#3 gfdsa146

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Posted 05 November 2007 - 03:13 PM

so that means i should have put in a big bet at the end? bet .04? lol..

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Posted 05 November 2007 - 03:16 PM

Meh, probably not. In LHE, I know I'll get a call from every other queen, every 5x, and even some AdXd's.Here, his calling range will be a lot smaller. He might bluff a few more hands if we check to him though, than they would in LHE, since he figures a bigger bet will have a better chance of winning the pot, so a c/c might be a better play here. I might be biased by seeing his check behind, but after that river card falls, I'm pretty confident we have the best hand, so the question is just how to get the most value. C/c'ing is probably better than betting in this case. I think only a moderately strong Q would be able to call us, of the hands we beat, while he may bluff a busted straight draw or flush draw when we check, or even bet worse pairs, etc.
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Posted 05 November 2007 - 03:20 PM

c/c was my original plan. good to see someone agrees with me. When i said big bet, i meant BB as if it was a .02/.04 LHE game.

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Posted 05 November 2007 - 03:21 PM

View Postgfdsa146, on Monday, November 5th, 2007, 6:20 PM, said:

c/c was my original plan. good to see someone agrees with me. When i said big bet, i meant BB as if it was a .02/.04 LHE game.
lol, I missed that, thought it said $0.40... nh suh.
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#7 Acid_Knight

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Posted 05 November 2007 - 03:26 PM

I think that c/c is probably better becuase it lets him take a stab with a missed draw, which makes up a lot of his range. If he's more of a passive stationy type guy, I'd bet the river here becuase I figure to have the best hand.

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Posted 05 November 2007 - 04:03 PM

i always error on the side of bet value. i bet/fold the river. meh.
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Posted 05 November 2007 - 07:30 PM

View Postnavybuttons, on Monday, November 5th, 2007, 5:03 PM, said:

i always error on the side of bet value. i bet/fold the river. meh.
I agree, especially when I have one of the draws covered.I would raise pf also, you have a limper and a post, mmm squeezalicious!Mark

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Posted 06 November 2007 - 06:08 AM

View PostAcid_Knight, on Monday, November 5th, 2007, 3:26 PM, said:

I think that c/c is probably better becuase it lets him take a stab with a missed draw, which makes up a lot of his range. If he's more of a passive stationy type guy, I'd bet the river here becuase I figure to have the best hand.
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