Cap Qq K Hits :c

[Maastonacci 0]

Villain is 35.5/12.9/4.75 after 31 handsbefore calling the cap he took a long pauseHoldem Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/04/12 - 11:49:57 (ET)Table Helionape 10-max Seat #8 is the buttonSeat 1: kallvestor ($3.35 in chips) Seat 2: Priapus Rex ($5.30 in chips) Seat 3: Plastic26 ($9.10 in chips) Seat 4: DeckSharks ($9.70 in chips) Seat 5: hero ($8.40 in chips) Seat 6: willingrader ($21.25 in chips) Seat 7: AliciaBlue ($5.40 in chips) Seat 8: nym31harvick ($12.70 in chips) Seat 9: Bogmarten ($18.95 in chips) Seat 10: arielaus ($7.10 in chips) Bogmarten: posts small blind $0.10arielaus: posts big blind $0.25*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to hero [Qs Qh]kallvestor: folds Priapus Rex: folds Plastic26: folds DeckSharks: calls $0.25hero: raises $0.25 to $0.50willingrader: folds AliciaBlue: folds nym31harvick: folds Bogmarten: folds arielaus: raises $0.25 to $0.75DeckSharks: folds hero: raises $0.25 to $1Betting is cappedarielaus: calls $0.25*** FLOP *** [6h 6d Kc]arielaus: bets $0.25hero:

[Zach6668 513]

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[Actuary 3]

my general play given the stats, which are not based on enough hands:raise flop and fold to the 3-bet.if called and donked into on turn, I probably foldif checked to, I'd bet turn and check behind on riverif donked into on river, I'd call out of "huh?"if c/r'd on turn, I'd fold.I don;'t takev his flop donk too seriously, as this play is his cheapest way to see if you have AK,KK,AA an are ahead of his 99-JJ, AQ.If he plays back after that, I'd be folding, figuring you've shown enough strengthI'm retired though

[CoranMoran 0]

before calling the cap he took a long pause

Have you see Villain make long pauses before?If not, then this mean nothing.Do not allow it to affect your read.My standard play on most flops is to raise here.But this flop is completely dry.No draws.And only 1 overcard hurts your hand.So if you are ahead, you will likely stay ahead.And if you are behind, you will likely stay behind.If Villain is a big bluffer who may fold if you raised, then this is a rare example in which I could understand just calling down.

I'm retired though

Retired = Frustration from downswing?--CM

[Zach6668 513]

Retired = Frustration from downswing?

Actuary doesn't downswing.

[Actuary 3]

Retired = Frustration from downswing?--CM

no, I was winning $$$, playing STT's mostlyHaven't played for over 2 months now

[Actuary 3]

Actuary doesn't downswing.

lol, I would if I had played as much as you do! , my luck would eventually run dry

[Maastonacci 0]

thanks for the answers.. maybe someday I'll reply to a thread :Pedit: oh and the converter thing, it didn't work. I tried with both browsers and still nothing :r

[fleung22 1]

To raise the flop and fold to a 3-bet is too weak IMO. Calling it down is okay but a little meh.My preference with position is to just call the flop and then bet/raise any turn. If he's strong enough to 3-bet on fourth street you're probably dead. If he calls you can check a blank river.

[Zach6668 513]

But this flop is completely dry.No draws.And only 1 overcard hurts your hand.So if you are ahead, you will likely stay ahead.And if you are behind, you will likely stay behind.

CM, isn't this the exact reasoning why we should be calling down, in a WA/WB situation?

[Actuary 3]

To raise the flop and fold to a 3-bet is too weak IMO.

what hand on a K66 dry flop is 3-betting the flop after we capped preflop?vs the hands that beat us now.how much do we make on the ones that we beat?Does he call down with JJ?We probably lose 2 BB whenever we are beat thoughCalling down against some players makes sense to me, but not if we raise flop

[fleung22 1]

what hand on a K66 dry flop is 3-betting the flop after we capped preflop?vs the hands that beat us now.how much do we make on the ones that we beat?Does he call down with JJ?We probably lose 2 BB whenever we are beat thoughCalling down against some players makes sense to me, but not if we raise flop

I try not to overthink during microlimit games cause it's hard to get in the mind of those players. I've seen people fire away with any pocket pair in that situation before or even just two good looking unpaired face cards. The flop in limit sometimes gets too much play and makes so many draw calls correct on the turn because of the massive pot.Folding to a reraise on the flop isn't bad but I feel like the flop call then turn raise is much more telling of the story. It only costs .5 bet more but is such a powerful tool. If you were the villian and saw the hero cold call the flop bet after capping preflop...what are the possible hands of the hero now raising on the turn? It's pretty scary. Only AA, a big King or 6 should 3-bet you.

[RISEorFall 0]

My preference with position is to just call the flop and then bet/raise any turn. If he's strong enough to 3-bet on fourth street you're probably dead. If he calls you can check a blank river.

taking this line, we can put in 2 bets and then possibly foldor we can put in 2 bets and get to showdown raising the turn to check behind on the river makes no sense in this hand. we sometimes fold a better hand when he 3-bet JJ or something (granted not often but sometimes)we lose our chance at a 2 outer we usually make worse hands like TT or JJ fold when they might have put another bet in on the riverwhy do i keep seeing people advocating this?

[Actuary 3]

Rise, I agree.We're not against a draw when they bet the turn.So, why raise fold against donk bet?Fold or get to SD for 2 bets.

[antistuff 0]

I just call this down and bet if checked to. What does raising this flop accomplish?

[Actuary 3]

I just call this down and bet if checked to. What does raising this flop accomplish?

makes folding to a 3 bet pretty easy.