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[pookie_jurd 0]

One more point on this. I don't think my non-sd problem is that I'm not aggressive or not winning enough pots with air. I think my problem is putting too much money in with a marginal hand and then being forced to fold. I've got to learn when to back off.

Interesting.. I was thinking my non-sd winnings was because I was firing alot, but maybe its because I'm choosing the right spots to fire more ... hmm something to think about.Also, with my stats in other positions, what should I be looking at in the SB? 15/12 or something?

[AAsnake88 0]

:(Full Tilt Poker Game (6 max) - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:28:35 ET - 2008/07/16Seat 1: AAsnake88 ($25)Seat 2: Blats12 ($30.85)Seat 3: alien 1213 ($13.25)Seat 4: SPC_Chaser ($21.35)Seat 5: iamkaotic ($32.30)Seat 6: strailster ($46.15)alien 1213 posts the small blind of $0.10SPC_Chaser posts the big blind of $0.25The button is in seat #2*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to AAsnake88 [6h 6d]iamkaotic foldsstrailster raises to $0.85AAsnake88 calls $0.85Blats12 calls $0.85alien 1213 foldsSPC_Chaser folds*** FLOP *** [Jc Js 6c]strailster checksAAsnake88 checksBlats12 bets $1.50strailster calls $1.50AAsnake88 calls $1.50*** TURN *** [Jc Js 6c] [7s]strailster checksAAsnake88 has 15 seconds left to actAAsnake88 checksBlats12 bets $2.75strailster calls $2.75AAsnake88 has 15 seconds left to actAAsnake88 raises to $14Blats12 has 15 seconds left to actBlats12 foldsstrailster has 15 seconds left to actstrailster: i dont believe you but i guess i have to fold strailster has requested TIMEAAsnake88: foldstrailster raises to $43.80, and is all inAAsnake88 calls $8.65, and is all instrailster shows [Qd Qc]AAsnake88 shows [6h 6d]Uncalled bet of $21.15 returned to strailster*** RIVER *** [Jc Js 6c 7s] [Jd]strailster shows a full house, Jacks full of QueensAAsnake88 shows a full house, Jacks full of Sixesstrailster wins the pot ($52.70) with a full house, Jacks full of QueensAAsnake88 adds $25*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $55.45 | Rake $2.75Board: [Jc Js 6c 7s Jd]Seat 1: AAsnake88 showed [6h 6d] and lost with a full house, Jacks full of SixesSeat 2: Blats12 (button) folded on the TurnSeat 3: alien 1213 (small blind) folded before the FlopSeat 4: SPC_Chaser (big blind) folded before the FlopSeat 5: iamkaotic didn't bet (folded)Seat 6: strailster showed [Qd Qc] and won ($52.70) with a full house, Jacks full of Queens

[Painter567 0]

:(Full Tilt Poker Game (6 max) - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:28:35 ET - 2008/07/16Seat 1: AAsnake88 ($25)Seat 2: Blats12 ($30.85)Seat 3: alien 1213 ($13.25)Seat 4: SPC_Chaser ($21.35)Seat 5: iamkaotic ($32.30)Seat 6: strailster ($46.15)alien 1213 posts the small blind of $0.10SPC_Chaser posts the big blind of $0.25The button is in seat #2*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to AAsnake88 [6h 6d]iamkaotic foldsstrailster raises to $0.85AAsnake88 calls $0.85Blats12 calls $0.85alien 1213 foldsSPC_Chaser folds*** FLOP *** [Jc Js 6c]strailster checksAAsnake88 checksBlats12 bets $1.50strailster calls $1.50AAsnake88 calls $1.50*** TURN *** [Jc Js 6c] [7s]strailster checksAAsnake88 has 15 seconds left to actAAsnake88 checksBlats12 bets $2.75strailster calls $2.75AAsnake88 has 15 seconds left to actAAsnake88 raises to $14Blats12 has 15 seconds left to actBlats12 foldsstrailster has 15 seconds left to actstrailster: i dont believe you but i guess i have to fold strailster has requested TIMEAAsnake88: foldstrailster raises to $43.80, and is all inAAsnake88 calls $8.65, and is all instrailster shows [Qd Qc]AAsnake88 shows [6h 6d]Uncalled bet of $21.15 returned to strailster*** RIVER *** [Jc Js 6c 7s] [Jd]strailster shows a full house, Jacks full of QueensAAsnake88 shows a full house, Jacks full of Sixesstrailster wins the pot ($52.70) with a full house, Jacks full of QueensAAsnake88 adds $25*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $55.45 | Rake $2.75Board: [Jc Js 6c 7s Jd]Seat 1: AAsnake88 showed [6h 6d] and lost with a full house, Jacks full of SixesSeat 2: Blats12 (button) folded on the TurnSeat 3: alien 1213 (small blind) folded before the FlopSeat 4: SPC_Chaser (big blind) folded before the FlopSeat 5: iamkaotic didn't bet (folded)Seat 6: strailster showed [Qd Qc] and won ($52.70) with a full house, Jacks full of Queens

Gross card......Nice chat though....

[fighter 4]

Anyway, a few questions:

1. [*]At what level does your image become a major factor in your decision making?[*]At 25NL AK is almost never ahead and rarely flipping aipf. At what level does this change?50NL at cake you will see alot of people get AK in pre. I think with all the data mining on the major sites that all the people that would notice image would have most of your pt stats so they will always have a general idea what your range is.

[Veener Schnitz 0]

50NL at cake you will see alot of people get AK in pre. I think with all the data mining on the major sites that all the people that would notice image would have most of your pt stats so they will always have a general idea what your range is.

standard?

[RDog 0]

:(Full Tilt Poker Game (6 max) - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:28:35 ET - 2008/07/16Seat 1: AAsnake88 ($25)Seat 2: Blats12 ($30.85)Seat 3: alien 1213 ($13.25)Seat 4: SPC_Chaser ($21.35)Seat 5: iamkaotic ($32.30)Seat 6: strailster ($46.15)alien 1213 posts the small blind of $0.10SPC_Chaser posts the big blind of $0.25The button is in seat #2*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to AAsnake88 [6h 6d]iamkaotic foldsstrailster raises to $0.85AAsnake88 calls $0.85Blats12 calls $0.85alien 1213 foldsSPC_Chaser folds*** FLOP *** [Jc Js 6c]strailster checksAAsnake88 checksBlats12 bets $1.50strailster calls $1.50AAsnake88 calls $1.50*** TURN *** [Jc Js 6c] [7s]strailster checksAAsnake88 has 15 seconds left to actAAsnake88 checksBlats12 bets $2.75strailster calls $2.75AAsnake88 has 15 seconds left to actAAsnake88 raises to $14Blats12 has 15 seconds left to actBlats12 foldsstrailster has 15 seconds left to actstrailster: i dont believe you but i guess i have to fold strailster has requested TIMEAAsnake88: foldstrailster raises to $43.80, and is all inAAsnake88 calls $8.65, and is all instrailster shows [Qd Qc]AAsnake88 shows [6h 6d]Uncalled bet of $21.15 returned to strailster*** RIVER *** [Jc Js 6c 7s] [Jd]strailster shows a full house, Jacks full of QueensAAsnake88 shows a full house, Jacks full of Sixesstrailster wins the pot ($52.70) with a full house, Jacks full of QueensAAsnake88 adds $25*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $55.45 | Rake $2.75Board: [Jc Js 6c 7s Jd]Seat 1: AAsnake88 showed [6h 6d] and lost with a full house, Jacks full of SixesSeat 2: Blats12 (button) folded on the TurnSeat 3: alien 1213 (small blind) folded before the FlopSeat 4: SPC_Chaser (big blind) folded before the FlopSeat 5: iamkaotic didn't bet (folded)Seat 6: strailster showed [Qd Qc] and won ($52.70) with a full house, Jacks full of Queens

Bill Mark 25 bucks.

[Veener Schnitz 0]

has anyone had ingrown toe nails and had to have them removed and can elude on how painful the procedure is? getting it done tomorrow and i've heard stories...

[bull62 0]

50NL at cake you will see alot of people get AK in pre. I think with all the data mining on the major sites that all the people that would notice image would have most of your pt stats so they will always have a general idea what your range is.

How about post-flop.....with one card to come. Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)Hero ($55.75)MP ($50)CO ($34.25)Button ($50)SB ($78.65)BB ($51.15)Preflop: Hero is UTG with , . Hero raises to $1.75, 2 folds, SB raises to $5.75, 1 fold, Hero calls $4.Flop: ($12) , , (3 players)SB bets $8.5, Hero calls $8.50.Turn: ($29) (3 players)SB bets $18, Hero raises to $41.5 (All-In), SB calls $23.50.River: ($112) (3 players, 1 all-in)Final Pot: $112Results in white below: SB has Ad Kd (one pair, fours). Hero has Qh Ah (two pair, queens and fours). MP has (two pair, queens and fours). Outcome: Hero wins $112.

[Painter567 0]

has anyone had ingrown toe nails and had to have them removed and can elude on how painful the procedure is? getting it done tomorrow and i've heard stories...

I have had it done on 1 foot....big toe. I hurt so bad b4 the procedure.....after.....relief.One of the best things I have had done.My Dr. numbed me pretty good.....had a little pain once the local wore off. Sore for a couple days.

[bull62 0]

My Dr. numbed me pretty good.....had a little pain once the local wore off. Sore for a couple days.

Sounds a lot like my vasectomy.TMI?

[Veener Schnitz 0]

How about post-flop.....with one card to come. Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)Hero ($55.75)MP ($50)CO ($34.25)Button ($50)SB ($78.65)BB ($51.15)Preflop: Hero is UTG with , . Hero raises to $1.75, 2 folds, SB raises to $5.75, 1 fold, Hero calls $4.Flop: ($12) , , (3 players)SB bets $8.5, Hero calls $8.50.Turn: ($29) (3 players)SB bets $18, Hero raises to $41.5 (All-In), SB calls $23.50.River: ($112) (3 players, 1 all-in)Final Pot: $112Results in white below: SB has Ad Kd (one pair, fours). Hero has Qh Ah (two pair, queens and fours). MP has (two pair, queens and fours). Outcome: Hero wins $112.

villain put you on AJ. easy game

[Veener Schnitz 0]

I have had it done on 1 foot....big toe. I hurt so bad b4 the procedure.....after.....relief.One of the best things I have had done.My Dr. numbed me pretty good.....had a little pain once the local wore off. Sore for a couple days.

how about during the procedure?

[Painter567 0]

Sounds a lot like my vasectomy.TMI?

LOL...had that done too....was about the same!

[fighter 4]

standard?

yeah but there is still a very tight 3 bet range with alot of people.

How about post-flop.....with one card to come.

Awesome

[Painter567 0]

how about during the procedure?

Not so much....he numbed me pretty good.

[Snamuh 0]

50NL at cake you will see alot of people get AK in pre. I think with all the data mining on the major sites that all the people that would notice image would have most of your pt stats so they will always have a general idea what your range is.

I'd say 100 NL, maybe 200 NL.Data mined statistics have nothing to do with image. Image alters the range that your stats indicate. If someone is appearing loose, one may believe that he is playing more hands than his 18/16 stats may indicate. He in turn may then choose to loosen up or tighten up accordingly in response to his own image.I would say at 100 NL people really start to take concern of how they are playing but I'd say at 200 NL, maybe 400 NL, people start really adjusting their games accordingly. What I mean is that, at 100 NL, someone may have just raised 3 hands in a row and decide to fold a hand such as KTs or A9o or something preflop because they feel like they are raising too much and someone might play back. But at 200 NL or 400 NL, someone may decide that he's raising too much and when he has a hand like TT/JJ/AQ, they may decide to 4bet for value. In this way, the players have noticed their image and have decided they can open up their ranges because others will have started raising them lighter.Edit: If this doesn't make sense, it's because I'm completely baked right now.

[king1305 0]

Full Tilt Poker Game #7254037253: Table Drexel (6 max) - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:29:06 ET - 2008/07/16Seat 1: King1305 ($25)Seat 2: Jlim288 ($25.55)Seat 3: aosam ($25)Seat 4: SoBong ($27)Seat 5: GreenInsight ($33.40)Seat 6: deuceDUCY ($25)SoBong posts the small blind of $0.10GreenInsight posts the big blind of $0.25The button is in seat #3*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to King1305 [Kh Qh]deuceDUCY foldsKing1305 raises to $0.85Jlim288 foldsaosam raises to $2.90SoBong foldsGreenInsight foldsKing1305 calls $2.05*** FLOP *** [Kd 4d Qc]King1305 checksaosam bets $3.50King1305 calls $3.50*** TURN *** [Kd 4d Qc] [Js]King1305 checksaosam bets $7.25King1305 raises to $18.60, and is all inaosam has 15 seconds left to actaosam has requested TIMEKing1305: diamonds?aosam calls $11.35, and is all inKing1305 shows [Kh Qh]aosam shows [Ac Kc]*** RIVER *** [Kd 4d Qc Js] [5c]King1305 shows two pair, Kings and Queensaosam shows a pair of KingsKing1305 wins the pot ($47.85) with two pair, Kings and Queensaosam adds $25*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $50.35 | Rake $2.50Board: [Kd 4d Qc Js 5c]Seat 1: King1305 showed [Kh Qh] and won ($47.85) with two pair, Kings and QueensSeat 2: Jlim288 didn't bet (folded)Seat 3: aosam (button) showed [Ac Kc] and lost with a pair of KingsSeat 4: SoBong (small blind) folded before the FlopSeat 5: GreenInsight (big blind) folded before the FlopSeat 6: deuceDUCY didn't bet (folded)Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)UTG ($26.25)Hero ($25)Button ($24.60)SB ($12.85)BB ($20.90)Preflop: Hero is MP with K, A. 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.85, 1 fold, SB calls $0.75, BB raises to $1.45, Hero calls $0.60, SB calls $0.60.Flop: ($4.35) 6, 5, K(3 players)SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $3.25, SB folds, BB calls $3.25.Turn: ($10.85) 9(2 players)BB bets $7.75, Hero calls $7.75.River: ($26.35) 2(2 players)BB bets $8, Hero raises to $12.55 (All-In), BB calls $0.44 (All-In).Final Pot: $43.25Results in white below: BB doesn't show. Hero has Ks Ad (flush, ace high). Outcome: Hero wins $47.35. Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)UTG ($64)MP ($32.55)CO ($25)Button ($28.20)Hero ($25)BB ($16.30)Preflop: Hero is SB with A , A . 4 folds, Hero raises to $1, BB raises to $16.3 (All-In), Hero calls $15.30.Flop: ($32.70) T , Q , T (2 players, 1 all-in)Turn: ($32.70) T (2 players, 1 all-in)River: ($32.70) 3 (2 players, 1 all-in)Final Pot: $32.70Results in white below: Hero has Ad Ac (full house, tens full of aces). BB has Ks 7s (three of a kind, tens). Outcome: Hero wins $32.70.

[bull62 0]

If I could get paid with AA I'd be doing pretty good. Had it 7 times, won every time, for a total of $6.10.

[Veener Schnitz 0]

Full Tilt Poker Game #7254037253: Table Drexel (6 max) - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:29:06 ET - 2008/07/16Seat 1: King1305 ($25)Seat 2: Jlim288 ($25.55)Seat 3: aosam ($25)Seat 4: SoBong ($27)Seat 5: GreenInsight ($33.40)Seat 6: deuceDUCY ($25)SoBong posts the small blind of $0.10GreenInsight posts the big blind of $0.25The button is in seat #3*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to King1305 [Kh Qh]deuceDUCY foldsKing1305 raises to $0.85Jlim288 foldsaosam raises to $2.90SoBong foldsGreenInsight foldsKing1305 calls $2.05*** FLOP *** [Kd 4d Qc]King1305 checksaosam bets $3.50King1305 calls $3.50*** TURN *** [Kd 4d Qc] [Js]King1305 checksaosam bets $7.25King1305 raises to $18.60, and is all inaosam has 15 seconds left to actaosam has requested TIMEKing1305: diamonds?aosam calls $11.35, and is all inKing1305 shows [Kh Qh]aosam shows [Ac Kc]*** RIVER *** [Kd 4d Qc Js] [5c]King1305 shows two pair, Kings and Queensaosam shows a pair of KingsKing1305 wins the pot ($47.85) with two pair, Kings and Queensaosam adds $25*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $50.35 | Rake $2.50Board: [Kd 4d Qc Js 5c]Seat 1: King1305 showed [Kh Qh] and won ($47.85) with two pair, Kings and QueensSeat 2: Jlim288 didn't bet (folded)Seat 3: aosam (button) showed [Ac Kc] and lost with a pair of KingsSeat 4: SoBong (small blind) folded before the FlopSeat 5: GreenInsight (big blind) folded before the FlopSeat 6: deuceDUCY didn't bet (folded)Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)UTG ($26.25)Hero ($25)Button ($24.60)SB ($12.85)BB ($20.90)Preflop: Hero is MP with K, A. 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.85, 1 fold, SB calls $0.75, BB raises to $1.45, Hero calls $0.60, SB calls $0.60.Flop: ($4.35) 6, 5, K(3 players)SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $3.25, SB folds, BB calls $3.25.Turn: ($10.85) 9(2 players)BB bets $7.75, Hero calls $7.75.River: ($26.35) 2(2 players)BB bets $8, Hero raises to $12.55 (All-In), BB calls $0.44 (All-In).Final Pot: $43.25Results in white below: BB doesn't show. Hero has Ks Ad (flush, ace high). Outcome: Hero wins $47.35. Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)UTG ($64)MP ($32.55)CO ($25)Button ($28.20)Hero ($25)BB ($16.30)Preflop: Hero is SB with A , A . 4 folds, Hero raises to $1, BB raises to $16.3 (All-In), Hero calls $15.30.Flop: ($32.70) T , Q , T (2 players, 1 all-in)Turn: ($32.70) T (2 players, 1 all-in)River: ($32.70) 3 (2 players, 1 all-in)Final Pot: $32.70Results in white below: Hero has Ad Ac (full house, tens full of aces). BB has Ks 7s (three of a kind, tens). Outcome: Hero wins $32.70.

maybe i should start talking when i play and people will start calling me down light.

[zimmer4141 0]

WHOOOOOO ONLY STUCK $2500 ON THE DAY!!!Full Tilt PokerNo Limit Holdem Ring gameBlinds: $3/$62 playersConverterStack sizes:Hero: $1194BB: $1275.50Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is SB with A J Hero raises to $18, BB calls.Flop: K 7 J ($36, 2 players)BB checks, Hero bets $24, BB calls.Turn: J ($84, 2 players)BB checks, Hero bets $60, BB raises to $220, Hero calls.River: 5 ($524, 2 players)BB is all-in $1013.5, Hero calls all-in $932.Uncalled bets: $81.5 returned to BB.Results:Final pot: $2388BB showed Kh 9hHero showed Ac Js

[bull62 0]

OMFG!!!!! How did this guy get his stack?Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)BB ($52.05)Hero ($65.70)MP ($58.85)CO ($61.25)Button ($260.25)SB ($94.60)Preflop: Hero is UTG with , . Hero raises to $1.75, 2 folds, Button calls $1.75, SB calls $1.50, 1 fold.Flop: ($5.75) , , (3 players)SB checks, Hero bets $4, Button calls $4, SB calls $4.Turn: ($17.75) (3 players)SB checks, Hero bets $10.5, Button raises to $49.25, SB folds, Hero calls $38.75.River: ($116.25) (2 players)Hero bets $10.7 (All-In), Button calls $10.70.Final Pot: $137.65Results in white below: Hero has 8s 8h (full house, eights full of kings). Button doesn't show 7s Ts. Outcome: Hero wins $137.65.

[Veener Schnitz 0]

OMFG!!!!! How did this guy get his stack?Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)BB ($52.05)Hero ($65.70)MP ($58.85)CO ($61.25)Button ($260.25)SB ($94.60)Preflop: Hero is UTG with , . Hero raises to $1.75, 2 folds, Button calls $1.75, SB calls $1.50, 1 fold.Flop: ($5.75) , , (3 players)SB checks, Hero bets $4, Button calls $4, SB calls $4.Turn: ($17.75) (3 players)SB checks, Hero bets $10.5, Button raises to $49.25, SB folds, Hero calls $38.75.River: ($116.25) (2 players)Hero bets $10.7 (All-In), Button calls $10.70.Final Pot: $137.65Results in white below: Hero has 8s 8h (full house, eights full of kings). Button doesn't show. Outcome: Hero wins $137.65.

villain's hand?

[bull62 0]

villain's hand?

Fixed7s Ts

[Citizen Erased 0]

Straight Flush > Nut FlushRunner-Runner Flushed, TWICECountless crap I cant rememberCant get payed for the life of meBlehhhhhhhhh. Oh well.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (4 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)BB ($21.10)UTG ($17.95)Button ($12.40)Hero ($18.05)Preflop: Hero is SB with A, Q. 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.3, BB calls $0.20.Flop: ($0.65) Q, 2, 2(2 players)Hero bets $0.4, BB calls $0.40.Turn: ($1.45) 5(2 players)Hero checks, BB bets $1.4, Hero raises to $4, BB calls $2.60.River: ($9.45) J(2 players)Hero bets $5, BB calls $5.Final Pot: $19.45BB has Qd Jc (two pair, queens and jacks). Hero has Ac Qc (two pair, queens and twos). Outcome: BB wins $19.45. General reply is that I should keep on betting, and raise PF to .4, which I agree with looking back.

[Veener Schnitz 0]

Straight Flush > Nut FlushRunner-Runner Flushed, TWICECountless crap I cant rememberCant get payed for the life of meBlehhhhhhhhh. Oh well.

bet that turn baby. just keep value towning. you'll get called down by smaller queens a lot and other pocket pairs.