theresa113 0 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Last night while talking with a friend, we got on the subject of sex and spirituality. He wanted me to explain what I was talking about but I failed to do so elequently. Anyway, this morning, I hopped onto the internet and found this article by Deepak Chopra. It expresses most of my views about sex and I thought I would share with all of you. I also expect that since this is sex and spirituality, that certain very active forum members will have some very pointed views. So, eenjoy the article and let the heated debate begin. Sex and Spirituality Deepak Chopra - June 30, 2005 Recently I have started to write a contemporary version of the Kama Sutra. An ancient text that sees pleasure (kama) as one of the four goals of life. The other three being: Dharma which is harmony with the universe; Arth (material abundance) and Moksha (enlightenment). Before I started the book I thought I would put down any insights I personally had with relationship with sex and spirituality which I would like to share with you: 1. Sexual energy is the primal and creative energy of the universe. All things that are alive come from sexual energy. In animals and other life forms, sexual energy expresses itself as biological creativity. In humans, sexual energy can be creative at all levels - physical, emotional and spiritual. In any situation, where we feel attraction, arousal, awakening, alertness, passion, interest, inspiration, excitement, creativity, enthusiasm, in each of these situations, sexual energy is at work. When ever we feel these states of awareness, we must put our attention on the energy that we are experiencing, nourishing it with our attention, experiencing it with joy and keeping it alive in our awareness. 2. Sexual desire is sacred and chaste. The suppression of sexual energy is false, ugly and unchaste. 3. During sexual union, there is union between flesh and spirit. 4. Bliss, carefreeness and playfulness are the essence of sex. 5. To improve your sexual experiences, get rid of your expectations. Expectations are primarily in three areas: 1) Performance, exemplified in the question, "How am I doing?" 2) Feeling, exemplified in the question, "How am I feeling?" 3) Security, exemplified in the question, "Do you love me?" 6. In sex, as in all areas of life, resistance is born of fear. All resistance is mental. It implies judgment against what is being felt. Sex becomes a problem when it gets mixed with hidden emotions such as shame, guilt and anger. 7. Sexual intimacy is the road to the taste or experience of true freedom, because it is the one area of life in which we can become completely uninhibited and free. 8. Sexual fulfillment occurs when the experience comes from playfulness instead of need. Frequently people bring their conflicts and needs into the sexual experience. When sex is used to fulfill needs, it leads to addiction. When sex comes from playfulness, the result is ecstasy. 9. All problems related to sex, neurosis, deviancy, sexual misbehavior, violence, abuse, can be traced to resistance, to suppression and repression, not to the sexual urges themselves. If we are allowed to discover our urges, desires and emotions, without outside inhibition, they won't go to extremes. Extremism, in any form, is a reaction to repression, inhibition and suppression. Aggression and violence are the shadow energies of fear and impotence. 10. Sex is a means of escaping our little self or ego. It is many peoples' only experience of meditation. 11. Meaningful sex has to be value based. Values are personal. Each situation that has sexual energy in it, involves the whole human being and their entire value system. My values may be different from yours, and I have no right to be the moral judge of anyone's values. It is important, however, to have core values, and respect them. Without values, we become spiritually bankrupt. Sexual experience will never cause problems and will always be joyful, if lovers share the same values. 12. True intimacy is union between flesh and flesh, between subtle body and subtle body, between soul and soul. Sexual energy is sacred energy. When we have restored the sexual experience to the realm of the sacred, our world will be chaste and divine, holy and healed.Deepak Chopra's Internet Blog (source of this article) Link to post Share on other sites
crowTrobot 2 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 yes sex drive is spiritual and couldn't possibly be 100% biological Link to post Share on other sites
Sluggo 0 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Is this true for only humans? Or chimpanzees too? Link to post Share on other sites
Loismustdie 0 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 yes sex drive is spiritual and couldn't possibly be 100% biological First time in awhile I agree with you, to a certain extent. Sex drive is most definitely biological- however, it would be incorrect to state that a persons state of mind has no effect, or past experiences and expectations don't have an effect. I will tell you what, though, if Jesus taught that sex would heal, man my life would be alot easier, because I get it on day and night baby. Link to post Share on other sites
LongLiveYorke 38 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 I will tell you what, though, if Jesus taught that sex would heal, man my life would be alot easier, because I get it on day and night baby.Or, if you were an athiest, you could too........join us........join us....Join now and I'll only make you pay 5% of your income to me. That's HALF of tithe, baby!!! Plus I'll throw in a Foreman Grill for free.Edit: (And yes, I understand that you don't actually Tithe, lois, so I don't want a speech about how tithes aren't a part of the true Christianity as outlined in the bible. It was only a joke.) Link to post Share on other sites
Loismustdie 0 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Or, if you were an athiest, you could too........join us........join us....Join now and I'll only make you pay 5% of your income to me. That's HALF of tithe, baby!!! Plus I'll throw in a Foreman Grill for free.Edit: (And yes, I understand that you don't actually Tithe, lois, so I don't want a speech about how tithes aren't a part of the true Christianity as outlined in the bible. It was only a joke.) I could use another Foreman grill. That's tempting. Link to post Share on other sites
Sluggo 0 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 I'll never believe this until all of these terms like "sexual energy" are defined.(I.e., I'll never believe this.) Link to post Share on other sites
Loismustdie 0 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 I'll never believe this until all of these terms like "sexual energy" are defined.(I.e., I'll never believe this.) You know how you see Rose McGowan and you get wood? That's sexual energy. Link to post Share on other sites
Sluggo 0 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Please define sexual energy. Link to post Share on other sites
the shank 0 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Please define sexual energy.This is not an understandable, unique term with a specific meaning. Only those have definitions. Sexual energy could mean anything you want it to. Link to post Share on other sites
crowTrobot 2 Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 You know how you see Rose McGowan and you get wood?that's just your closet satanic fetish to go where marilyn manson has been Link to post Share on other sites
Loismustdie 0 Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 that's just your closet satanic fetish to go where marilyn manson has been I can't help- girl just does it for me. I won't apologize. Link to post Share on other sites
LongLiveYorke 38 Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 I can't help- girl just does it for me. I won't apologize.I'd hit it.Boy, did I really just say that...? Link to post Share on other sites
Flack_attack 0 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Sex is for makin' babies--nothing else.Sorry, just what my church teaches. Link to post Share on other sites
Loismustdie 0 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Sex is for makin' babies--nothing else.Sorry, just what my chruch teaches. Funny, and sad if it's true. Link to post Share on other sites
Flack_attack 0 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Funny, and sad if it's true.Why? Link to post Share on other sites
Loismustdie 0 Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Why? If sex was just about making babies, then what would be the sense in God making you stick to one partner? Link to post Share on other sites
Flack_attack 0 Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 If sex was just about making babies, then what would be the sense in God making you stick to one partner?Um, to raise the baby? Link to post Share on other sites
Mattnxtc 0 Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Lois i got your back on this one...i definately think the bible teaches sex is about much more than just making babies. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NICKKNACK Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Shut Up Link to post Share on other sites
Loismustdie 0 Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Um, to raise the baby? No. Link to post Share on other sites
Flack_attack 0 Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 No.What? Why then is pre-marital sex sinful? Why then is using contraception sinful?Because you are having sex for personal pleasure, not to have children. Link to post Share on other sites
Loismustdie 0 Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 What? Why then is pre-marital sex sinful? Why then is using contraception sinful?Because you are having sex for personal pleasure, not to have children. No- premarital sex is sinful because God's intention was for every person to have one partner, within the bounds of marriage, which has it's own restrictive laws. Contraception is sinful because it interferes with the natural order, or the way God designed it, which was to be spontaneous, a little bundle of joy, not a well planned sound financial decision. Link to post Share on other sites
zzz 0 Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 No- premarital sex is sinful because God's intention was for every person to have one partner, within the bounds of marriage, which has it's own restrictive laws. Contraception is sinful because it interferes with the natural order, or the way God designed it, which was to be spontaneous, a little bundle of joy, not a well planned sound financial decision.How do you know? Link to post Share on other sites
Loismustdie 0 Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 How do you know? Combination of the bible and an ability to see societal error. Link to post Share on other sites
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