timwakefield 68 Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 Not in order:PedroSheetsCarpenterOswaltZambrano/Peavy/WillisI'd probably go for Willis. Link to post Share on other sites
forumjp 0 Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 Not having Carpenter on this list causes you to lose all credibility. His last two years with the Cardinals have been extremely impressive as the #1 guy on the #1 NL team. Not saying he is necessarily #1 on the list, as he's only done it for two years, but he's ahead of Zambrano and Sheets and easily and probably Oswalt too.i dont see him as a diminating pitcher~ watch...he will not be the ace everyone thinks he is this year Link to post Share on other sites
MDXS 0 Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 Not in order:PedroSheetsCarpenterOswaltZambrano/Peavy/WillisI'd probably go for Willis.Peavy needs to be on that list. Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 68 Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 Peavy needs to be on that list.He is, sort of. I don't think he's better than Willis though. Link to post Share on other sites
MDXS 0 Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 He is, sort of. I don't think he's better than Willis though.Well, in the last three years, they have identical winning percentages (Peavy pitching for the Padres, Dontrelle for a world championship team), Peavy has a better ERA, much better K-rate, and a lower WHIP. It's a marginal difference though. Really, all the pitchers on the list are fairly close except Pedro. If he were completely healthy, he'd be far and away the best pitcher in the league. Link to post Share on other sites
guns2112 0 Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 I agree with the top 3 if it's who you would want on your team right now to win a World Series.King Felix is young but his stuff is just filthy.I toss Colon/Bonderman - Lackey is actually the ace of the Angels and I'd go with him and either Randy Johnson or Harden for my 5th pick. If Harden could stay healthy, he'd be my 5th but he hasn't proven that yet.Lackey is the Ace? Um you do now that Colon was the Cy Young winner in the AL?Colon is a top 5, He just grinds it out every game with a fast ball the gets faster later in the game. Hee is a vet and it shows Link to post Share on other sites
MDXS 0 Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 I agree with the top 3 if it's who you would want on your team right now to win a World Series.King Felix is young but his stuff is just filthy.I toss Colon/Bonderman - Lackey is actually the ace of the Angels and I'd go with him and either Randy Johnson or Harden for my 5th pick. If Harden could stay healthy, he'd be my 5th but he hasn't proven that yet.Lackey is the Ace? Um you do now that Colon was the Cy Young winner in the AL?Colon is a top 5, He just grinds it out every game with a fast ball the gets faster later in the game. Hee is a vet and it showsJesus, are you arguing with yourself? Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 68 Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 Jesus, are you arguing with yourself?hahahahahaI think he hasn't figured out how to quote. Link to post Share on other sites
MDXS 0 Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 hahahahahaI think he hasn't figured out how to quote.And not just throwing it in the pretty blue box...I don't see any quotation marks anywhere. Link to post Share on other sites
guns2112 0 Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 hahahahahaI think he hasn't figured out how to quote. Nah, just forgot. Teach me to respond while in a hand. Link to post Share on other sites
MDXS 0 Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 Nah, just forgot. Teach me to respond while in a hand.Just takes some practice. You'll get it down by the 100th post mark no problem. Link to post Share on other sites
gobears 0 Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 Lackey is the Ace? Um you do now that Colon was the Cy Young winner in the AL?Colon is a top 5, He just grinds it out every game with a fast ball the gets faster later in the game. Hee is a vet and it showsYeah, those writers always pick the most deserving candidate for MVP and Cy Young (sw)Look at Colon's 2004 stats - he's very inconsistent from year to year. Lackey's 2nd Half included an ERA of 2.57; he had 199 K's compared to Colon's 157 and Lackey is 5 years younger. Also - it appears that Lackey is in better shape than Colon.It's like the A's where Zito is called the Ace of the team when any A's fan would rather have Harden or Haren take the mound. Link to post Share on other sites
aadams_22 3 Posted April 6, 2006 Share Posted April 6, 2006 There's a difference IMO between your best pitcher and your ace. The ace of the staff has the mental stability that most other pitchers don't. Case in point...Derek Lowe. In the Dodger's season opener Lowe got lit up and looked like he was going to come apart at the seams. You put Randy Johnson, Jamie Moyer, or Tom Glavine in that same position they will keep their composure and come at you again with everything they got. An ace is a pitcher that will go out there with the attitude of I will get you....even if you put 20 runs on me in an inning the I will get you back whether it be the next inning or the next game. Jamie Moyer couldn't throw a baseball through a paper sack, but his attitude and will to win makes him the ace of that staff...in other words he finds ways to get you out. Link to post Share on other sites
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