CobaltBlue 662 Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 Bodog 10/20 LHE (4-handed)Cobalt is Button w/ K 9 . BB is very loose and averagely aggressive. Considering my spotty history with short-handed LHE, maybe it's a bad idea to be playing so high, but the players were terrible...so there I sat. Oh, and the table is very very passive pre-flop. I'd say that I do 80% of the PF raising.Pre-flop:1 fold, Cobalt raises, 1 fold, BB callsFlop (4.5 SB): T 9 K (2 players)BB checks, Cobalt bets, BB callsTurn (3 BB): 3 (2 players)BB checks, Cobalt bets, BB raises, Cobalt 3-bets, BB caps, Cobalt callsRiver (11 BB): 4 (2 players)BB bets, Cobalt ? Link to post Share on other sites
Verdimme 0 Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 That 3 on the turn could not have helped him alot. So he probably must have made someting on the flop then. T9, K9, KT, QJ all seem reasonable. I dont think he has a set, he would probably 3-bet those hands preflop, right?Chances are also that he is getting sick of your preflop aggresion and he decides to make a stand with a K. You raised from the button, and you were the preflop raiser 80% of the time when it was raised.Hmm, if he holds T9, K9, KT, or QJ chances are big that he 3-bets us again on the river. If he 3-bets we are beaten most of the time. So, i think we should just call here. Link to post Share on other sites
screech 0 Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 Easy call. You are not good the 2/3's of the time you need to raise. You probably aren't even good 1/4 of the time. Link to post Share on other sites
Absolute 0 Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 This is a worse two pair a lot of the time. Probably not enough of the time to justify a raise. But he doesn't have QJ that often here. Link to post Share on other sites
screech 0 Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 This is a worse two pair a lot of the time. Probably not enough of the time to justify a raise. But he doesn't have QJ that often here.QJ - 16 combosK3/T9 - 12 combosT3 - 9 combos93 - 6 combosAssuming he won't defend with trash, K3/T3/93 have to be discounted. When you discount those combos, he has a worse 2 pair just about as much as QJ. Adding in set combinations, KT, and something grossly overplayed, and QJ makes up about 1/3 of his range. Link to post Share on other sites
Absolute 0 Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 QJ - 16 combosK3/T9 - 12 combosT3 - 9 combos93 - 6 combosAssuming he won't defend with trash, K3/T3/93 have to be discounted. When you discount those combos, he has a worse 2 pair just about as much as QJ. Adding in set combinations, KT, and something grossly overplayed, and QJ makes up about 1/3 of his range.Loose passive players usually defend any two cards. Link to post Share on other sites
screech 0 Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 Loose passive players usually defend any two cards.Missed that read.Still, T3 and 93 have to be discounted somewhat. Loose players occassionally fold their blinds. Also, he's not overly aggressive, which means he may slow down with those hands on the turn.I would estimate that QJ makes up at least 25% of his range. Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 uhhh, what's teh question. there is only one right option here and its not folding or raising Link to post Share on other sites
Absolute 0 Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 uhhh, what's teh question. there is only one right option here and its not folding or raisingWHAT IS IT THEN?I DONT KNOW THE THIRD OPTION.by the way, ill raise this river against some players.im hyper aggressive though. i like the extra bets. Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted March 20, 2006 Author Share Posted March 20, 2006 This is a worse two pair a lot of the time. Probably not enough of the time to justify a raise.nh, sir. He had 93o. I missed a bet. Granted, y'all seem to agree that I can't raise the river. Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 nh, sir. He had 93o. I missed a bet. Granted, y'all seem to agree that I can't raise the river.results oriented thinking. That is such an easy call its not funny. If you get three bet there, you are toast so much more then you aren't its not funny. By raising you are opening yourself to a three bet way more often then you aren't Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted March 20, 2006 Author Share Posted March 20, 2006 results oriented thinking. That is such an easy call its not funny. If you get three bet there, you are toast so much more then you aren't its not funny. By raising you are opening yourself to a three bet way more often then you aren'tI'm not trying to say that we can raise. I'm just saying that if we could see our opponent's hand, we missed a bet. Link to post Share on other sites
Pancake407 0 Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 I call. Passive players, to cap that turn, its either a set or the JQ straight, IMO.***read replies***sucks that you missed a bet, but it looks like everyone agrees on this being a call. nh. Link to post Share on other sites
Absolute 0 Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 results oriented thinking. That is such an easy call its not funny. If you get three bet there, you are toast so much more then you aren't its not funny. By raising you are opening yourself to a three bet way more often then you aren'tIT'S NOT FUNNY. Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 You have to just call the river. A good player won't be capping the turn without at least K9 or KT, and even against a total donk, I'd say we're probably only good about 60% of the time. No way that you can get upset about not getting 6 bets in on the turn and river here. Link to post Share on other sites
greatwhite 0 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 I think a call 100% of the time. Link to post Share on other sites
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