kill phil

[Hobbes 1]

I realize that there is a thread about this in the Poker Books forum, but nobody in there has actually read it. I'm wondering if any of the regular tournament guys in here have read it and if they would recommend it.

[HtotheNootch 0]

I got it as a gift. I've read it, and played a couple of tournies using it as my guide. In fact, I played that way in the charter member freeroll. I'm not a MTT specialist in any way shape or form. I play mainly STTs, but I've found it useful, and my results in MTTs have improved. However, as the book cautions, low level online tourneys are generally so loose, that the strategy loses some effectiveness and requires a modification to the guidelines.

[gobears 0]

Kill Phil is on order along with Phil Gordon's little green book. The reviews seem good for both these books so we'll see.The last poker book I read was "Ace on the River" by Greenstein which was enjoyable but after a few weeks, I realize that I don't remember anything about it that I can use in either my cash or tourney games. Like someone else said, it's a good coffee table book.I notice that Daniel's book will be released in May so that's on my list as well.At this point, HOH I and II along with SS2 are my favorites.

[GT123 0]

I just ordered it also, hope it is as good as the reviews say. I need something to spark my interest in MTT again.

[copernicus 0]

If you are an average or worse post-flop player it wont hurt and may help your MTTs. Its much too tight for STTs. It has the following weaknesses imo:1-Your early plays are for all or most of your chips..you better win them.2-There is no stealing strategy, and if youre not getting hands fairly regularly you'll have stack trouble by the 4th round or so.3-If your opponents are awake it will be very hard to get calls because youre playing so tight.4-The final table short-handed strategy ignores other stacks and prize structure..very weak.5-The rare post-flop play (unraised in the big blind or unraised Group 1 hands) is too mechanical and way too tight.6-I havent read the HU section yet..my guess is that is fairly weak also.BTW...if you are going to play any kind of canned strategy like this you will never improve your post flop play unless you stay very focused when you arent in the hand and "play them out" in your head.

[Hobbes 1]

If you are an average or worse post-flop player it wont hurt and may help your MTTs. Its much too tight for STTs. It has the following weaknesses imo:1-Your early plays are for all or most of your chips..you better win them.2-There is no stealing strategy, and if youre not getting hands fairly regularly you'll have stack trouble by the 4th round or so.3-If your opponents are awake it will be very hard to get calls because youre playing so tight.4-The final table short-handed strategy ignores other stacks and prize structure..very weak.5-The rare post-flop play (unraised in the big blind or unraised Group 1 hands) is too mechanical and way too tight.6-I havent read the HU section yet..my guess is that is fairly weak also.BTW...if you are going to play any kind of canned strategy like this you will never improve your post flop play unless you stay very focused when you arent in the hand and "play them out" in your head.

This is sort of what I had heard, that it's mostly about trying to negate the advantage better players have on you by making big pre-flop plays. Personally, I'd rather read a book that tries to teach you how to become a better player, but I like tourney specific books, so I thought it might have some value. Not so sure now...

[copernicus 0]

If you are an average or worse post-flop player it wont hurt and may help your MTTs. Its much too tight for STTs. It has the following weaknesses imo:1-Your early plays are for all or most of your chips..you better win them.2-There is no stealing strategy, and if youre not getting hands fairly regularly you'll have stack trouble by the 4th round or so.3-If your opponents are awake it will be very hard to get calls because youre playing so tight.4-The final table short-handed strategy ignores other stacks and prize structure..very weak.5-The rare post-flop play (unraised in the big blind or unraised  Group 1 hands) is too mechanical and way too tight.6-I havent read the HU section yet..my guess is that is fairly weak also.BTW...if you are going to play any kind of canned strategy like this you will never improve your post flop play unless you stay very focused when you arent in the hand and "play them out"  in your head.

This is sort of what I had heard, that it's mostly about trying to negate the advantage better players have on you by making big pre-flop plays. Personally, I'd rather read a book that tries to teach you how to become a better player, but I like tourney specific books, so I thought it might have some value. Not so sure now...

Yeah..the basis of the book is Sklansky's all in system from TPFAP, which was further developed in the 2+2 bulletin board into an advanced version, and then further refined here.The one good thing about it is if you tend to be impatient, playing this system will bore you to death, and a normal strategy will seem LAG.If you want a tight but effective pre-flop strategy I like Lederer's. You dont play trouble hands OOP, and if you combine that with HoH II youre in good shape.