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is phil hellmuth better than daniel negreano????????


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yeah i know he won it twice in a row dum asloli own the supersystem :wink: :-) :twisted: :evil: :evil: :shock:

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Listen if you think that Daniel is worse then Phil in tournaments you are a silly silly boy.Why don't we make it interesting (wager?)In the next ten tournaments I take Daniel as my horse we can develop a points system. You take Phil or Moneymaker or some other donkey and we can both put a 100$s on it?(I advise you not to take this bet because you are probably mentally handicapped)

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Listen if you think that Daniel is worse then Phil in tournaments you are a silly silly boy.Why don't we make it interesting (wager?)In the next ten tournaments I take Daniel as my horse we can develop a points system. You take Phil or Moneymaker or some other donkey and we can both put a 100$s on it?(I advise you not to take this bet because you are probably mentally handicapped)
Phil is better at No Limit Holdem tournaments. That is it. Not in cash games of any sort. Not in any other tournaments, most likely. Just NLHE tournaments. That is all.
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PH VS DNPHIL HELLMUTH DOESN'T PLAY CASH GAMES AS OFTEN BECAUSE HE KNOWS HES NOT THE BEST<<< AT REALLY HIGH LIMITS.HE DOMINATES IN TOURNEYS THOUGH.
he does???? when was the last time he dominated?I have a fissure
The NLHE heads up tourney.
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Phil might not be a better overall player than DN but hes so much better than me that i cant even understand it. i mean really why would anyone fold for? i just call everyone down, thataway i never get bluffed.
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Someone who is more qulaified then us (Phil gets 7/10 for tournaments Daniel gets 9/10)http://www.barrygreenstein.com/player.htmI post disagreeing (defending phil) with Matt Matros about whether Fossilman is a better player. Also someone who is likely more qualified then us (Matt Matros). Matt makes a bunch of good points about the illusion that is the success of Phil H.http://www.wptfan.com/article.php?story=20...050115203657849Paul Phillips agreeshttp://www.livejournal.com/users/extempore/56646.htmlDaniel is betterPeriod!

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Someone who is more qulaified then us (Phil gets 7/10 for tournaments Daniel gets 9/10)http://www.barrygreenstein.com/player.htmI post disagreeing (defending phil) with Matt Matros about whether Fossilman is a better player. Also someone who is likely more qualified then us (Matt Matros). Matt makes a bunch of good points about the illusion that is the success of Phil H.http://www.wptfan.com/article.php?story=20...050115203657849Paul Phillips agreeshttp://www.livejournal.com/users/extempore/56646.htmlDaniel is betterPeriod!
Hellmuth is better in NO LIMIT HOLDEM tournaments. THAT IS ALL. Greenstein's rankings are probably for all tournaments. Phil has just been running bad in NLHE tourneys the past couple years.
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Someone who is more qulaified then us (Phil gets 7/10 for tournaments Daniel gets 9/10)http://www.barrygreenstein.com/player.htmI post disagreeing (defending phil) with Matt Matros about whether Fossilman is a better player. Also someone who is likely more qualified then us (Matt Matros). Matt makes a bunch of good points about the illusion that is the success of Phil H.http://www.wptfan.com/article.php?story=20...050115203657849Paul Phillips agreeshttp://www.livejournal.com/users/extempore/56646.htmlDaniel is betterPeriod!
keep in mind that matt and greg are good friends and have been for a good while. its impossible to talk about ur friend without some bias.
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Matt Matros is that guy that Annie Duke and Daniel basically called a tell bag when they analyzed his play in the WPT championship...Matros should shut up....really.....Phil is a great NL Holdem Tournament player....not good......GREAT...and he is good for the game....

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Matt Matros is that guy that Annie Duke and Daniel basically called a tell bag when they analyzed his play in the WPT championship...Matros should shut up....really.....Phil is a great NL Holdem Tournament player....not good......GREAT...and he is good for the game....
yes, exactly. I LOVE how the Hellmuth haters say that he hasn't had any success in SOOOOOOO long...please, http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=117Not to say he has been the hottest player the last few years, but seriously, he won two bracelets in '03 and actually had some PL Omaha success this year, so I wouldn't say he hasn't done ANYTHING lately. Also, his Heads-Up Championship win was pretty good, including his complete domination of Ferguson in the final.
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Is this still being debated.I think with 99% certainty if you polled the players at the National Headsup Championship (or whatever it was called) That Phil Ivey then Daniel Negreanu were the two most feared players.And that Phil Helmuth wouldn't be ranked in the top 10Go ask a pro who plays the 10k circuit, any of them will agree.This is not to say that Phil is bad, its just that Daniel is better.(I defended Phil in one of the links I posted saying there are few NLHE tournament players better then him. Daniel happens to be one of the twenty+ players I'd put ahead)*And seriously before you bash Matt read what he wrote. He gives facts showing how weak Helmuth's stats are. He agrees Phil is good, he just thinks fossilman is one of the few that are better.Please don't flame him, flame me :oops:

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