i am suing jim mcmanus

[alf13 0]

um, you are trying to aqrgue that hitler was radically liberal. so you have no right to call someone a moron until you actually read some history books and take some classes on late 19th and 20th century germany

When have I tried to argue that Hitler was radically liberal?Answer: NEVER.Nice job in making stuff up.I said he was a SOCIALIST.....and he obviously was.....

[gadjet 11]

Oh man... this is a massacre... fun to watch..  c'mon team Brainwashed.. you must have more arguments to regurgitate... Hmmm, looks like the free thinkers are running away with it...  

You are a fool. Of course...whoever disagree's with you is Brainwashed and you morons are the "free thinkers"The free thinkers vs the brainwashed was just a little joke... I mean c'mon you guys even believe baseball is a good sport!!! Case closed...You live in Canada anyway....you know nothing about anything that is being talked about here...you have no perspective...so...you really should STFU as you have no reference.funny shit... FYI I read the NYT at work everyday, and FYI most countries in the world have some concept of the world beyond your borders... I have access to the same information you have... I got this thing called the internet...In some parts of canada....CHOMSKY would be considered a conservative.Yeah, you just can't let that one reference to CHOMSKY go can you... keep clinging to it... it's all you have left...Some parts of canada believe you are stupid... does that make it right?

[alf13 0]

lets also look at the fact that Germany banned National SOcialism until recently, and yet wait, the most recent chancellor is..wait for it...............A SOCIALIST, BUT NOT A NATIONAL SOCIALIST. ALf, all I can say is, game, set, and match.

And the relevance is?What are you going to argue next? The price of beer in germany pre-hitler? game, set, match?WTF are you talking about? The censored's were socialists...period. Go back to class and continue your indoctrination.

Once again, names must mean EVERYTHING. I mean, they had socialist in their name right? HAVE to be socialist! Please man, thats like saying if my first name was Gay i would be forced to love the c.ock

NO...I already pointed out why they were socialists..it was their policies.

[PMJackson21 0]

lets also look at the fact that Germany banned National SOcialism until recently, and yet wait, the most recent chancellor is..wait for it...............A SOCIALIST, BUT NOT A NATIONAL SOCIALIST. ALf, all I can say is, game, set, and match.

And the relevance is?What are you going to argue next? The price of beer in germany pre-hitler? game, set, match?WTF are you talking about? The censored's were socialists...period. Go back to class and continue your indoctrination.

In his book Mein Kampf, Hitler wrote 'the suspicion was whispered in German Nationalist circles that we also were merely another variety of Marxism, perhaps even Marxists suitably disguised, or better still, Socialists... We used to roar with laughter at these silly faint-hearted bourgeoisie and their efforts to puzzle out our origin, our intentions and our aims. 'Care to retort Adolf's view on his own party?Patrick

[KDawgCometh 2]

lets also look at the fact that Germany banned National SOcialism until recently, and yet wait, the most recent chancellor is..wait for it...............A SOCIALIST, BUT NOT A NATIONAL SOCIALIST. ALf, all I can say is, game, set, and match.

And the relevance is?What are you going to argue next? The price of beer in germany pre-hitler? game, set, match?WTF are you talking about? The censored's were socialists...period. Go back to class and continue your indoctrination.

no the nazi's had socialism in their name, and I can garuntee you that no history or poli sci professor will even say that they were even close to being socialist. YOur arguemtn is very trite and you still have yet to actually prove that although they have the word socialism in their name, that they actually pratcied the works of Karl Marx. I suggest you reread Das Kapital and the communist manifesto and then try to say that the Nazi's practiced what was written in that. C'mon I dare you, I also love how you chopped off the part where I noted how Nazi Germany didn't practice socialism, but why let the facts get in the way of you trying to make an arguemnt

[Smasharoo 0]

Like they were both so far in the opposite direction they basically approached positive and negative infinity and in fact became the same thing. This is largely correct but flawed.The purest state of left wing government is Enlightened Anarchy (eeryone is equal, no government) the purest state of Right Wing govenrment is the Police State. As a system approcahses fascism, it moves RIGHT as it approches Anarchy it moves LEFT.Both extremes are equally unpalatable, but there is a discernable direction.

[Royal_Tour 0]

Like they were both so far in the opposite direction they basically approached positive and negative infinity and in fact became the same thing.  This is largely correct but flawed.The purest state of left wing government is Enlightened Anarchy (eeryone is equal, no government) the purest state of Right Wing govenrment is the Police State.  As a system approcahses fascism, it moves RIGHT as it approches Anarchy it moves LEFT.Both extremes are equally unpalatable, but there is a discernable direction.

Mad Max rules

[alf13 0]

gadget....that canadian beer has damaged your barin...stop watching reruns of Hockey Night in Canada and read something OTHER than the NY Times and you will see the light.as for those wondering...I read the NY Times.

[thedecline19 0]

The nation is liberal.Then why did Bush win the last election?  Let  me guess...the "conservative media" (fox news) scared the country into voting for him?Al Franken is liberal, George Soros, and hollywood are liberal.  It's the things that come from these people mouth's that make the country believe there are more liberals out there than there really are.  Move on.org--They're like the billboard for the current left.  "We have no solutions and no real ideas, so we'll just flame anyone or anything conservative and make documentaries that are full of lies, and hope that people start believing our lies.  If that doesn't work, we'll just keep complaining--people love complaining."

The nation IS liberal. As i pointed out, the VAST MAJORITY of Americans agree with liberal's on most issues according to every study done on the subject. To answer your question, I dont know why Bush won the election. Just because people support liberal ideas doesnt mean their smart enough to support liberal politicians.

[nealdo17 0]

Dolphins are gentle creatures

[Smasharoo 0]

In his book Mein Kampf, Hitler wrote 'the suspicion was whispered in German Nationalist circles that we also were merely another variety of Marxism, perhaps even Marxists suitably disguised, or better still, Socialists... We used to roar with laughter at these silly faint-hearted bourgeoisie and their efforts to puzzle out our origin, our intentions and our aims. 'Care to retort Adolf's view on his own party?PatrickKnock that shit off, I'm trying to win money here!

[chindi 0]

You live in Canada anyway....you know nothing about anything that is being talked about here...you have no perspective...so...you really should STFU as you have no reference.

Hrm.I didn't know that posting on the internet required a reference, I'm sure he's got a former employer than can speak for him.I can only assume that you meant 'you have no frame of reference'... of course that's not right either since his frame of reference is obviously that of a Canadian and thus not someone that's particularly invested in either side of the argument nor weighed down by the burden of investment in American Liberalism or American Conservatism. I can certainly see why we wouldn't want him cluttering up the argument with... objectivity.Yeah.... STFU you neutral observers... stick to tapping trees for syrup and brewing beer, eh?!?Of course I'll also note that given that much of what's being talked about here is the Socialism (or lack thereof) of the National Socialist movement in Germany.... I'm not particularly certain what moral authority alf has as an American that the Canadian over there lacked.... but whatevah.

[PMJackson21 0]

In his book Mein Kampf, Hitler wrote 'the suspicion was whispered in German Nationalist circles that we also were merely another variety of Marxism, perhaps even Marxists suitably disguised, or better still, Socialists... We used to roar with laughter at these silly faint-hearted bourgeoisie and their efforts to puzzle out our origin, our intentions and our aims. 'Care to retort Adolf's view on his own party?PatrickKnock that censored off, I'm trying to win money here!

LOL, my deepest apologies Smash. :-) In other words, dont tap on the glass? Patrick

[KDawgCometh 2]

yes, the nation is liberal, if you believe in JOhn Locke's thoughts you by defineition are a liberal. THe nation was founded on liberal thought. WHo wants to try to dispute that, cause Thomas Paine's common sense was basically a rip off of John LOcke's Second Treatrise of GOvernment

[nealdo17 0]

Just because people support liberal ideas doesnt mean their smart enough to support liberal politicians.My absolute favorite thing I have ever read!Also, they cant vote because they are felons

[reverbse 0]

wow. this is painful.the nazis were socialists? there´s sth behind words called meaning. you should try to break through to it.whoever told you the following: search him, find him, give him some hard knocks on the head and see if it helps. if you choose not to do so, then please

I said that the censored's were socialists because they were.The nationalized healthcare.whereas before it was?They nationalized their education system.They nationalized and regulated their largest industries.like which ones?They made private enterprise illegal.if you want to apologize. hallucinating is the word you´re looking for.They made all private institutions public.They disbanded local government for a central goverment.You either chose to ignore these facts or are just ignorant.  Which were you all?

i choose to ignore these FACTS

[KDawgCometh 2]

In his book Mein Kampf, Hitler wrote 'the suspicion was whispered in German Nationalist circles that we also were merely another variety of Marxism, perhaps even Marxists suitably disguised, or better still, Socialists... We used to roar with laughter at these silly faint-hearted bourgeoisie and their efforts to puzzle out our origin, our intentions and our aims. 'Care to retort Adolf's view on his own party?PatrickKnock that censored off, I'm trying to win money here!

LOL, my deepest apologies Smash. :-) In other words, dont tap on the glass? Patrick

LMAO, Patrick, I'd love to see Wilhelm come in here and rip alf a new one, is there anyway you could hook that one up

[ilovejulie 0]

BTW dumbass, stalin was liberal. He was a communist. Socialism = Left. AGAIN THIS SHOWS YOU DONT HAVE A BASIC UNDERSTANDING OF POLITICS TO CARRY THIS COVERSATION. ByeHahha.Wow.  Clueless.  I'm embarassed FOR you, man.I guess China is a Repulic, too right?  People's REPULBIC!!Hahah, so sad that people like you are allowed to vote.  Democracy sucks.

While generally it's accepted that Left = Socialism, and Right = Conservatism, I take strong issue with Smash when he intimates that Stalin was Conservative. Stalin was a Fascist, and while liberals in this country love to try to paint Conservatism in Fascist tones, it just ain't so....

[alf13 0]

In his book Mein Kampf, Hitler wrote 'the suspicion was whispered in German Nationalist circles that we also were merely another variety of Marxism, perhaps even Marxists suitably disguised, or better still, Socialists... We used to roar with laughter at these silly faint-hearted bourgeoisie and their efforts to puzzle out our origin, our intentions and our aims. 'Care to retort Adolf's view on his own party?Patrick

Howard dean= "I am a conservative."there ya go...rebutted.

[gadjet 11]

Like they were both so far in the opposite direction they basically approached positive and negative infinity and in fact became the same thing.  This is largely correct but flawed.The purest state of left wing government is Enlightened Anarchy (eeryone is equal, no government) the purest state of Right Wing govenrment is the Police State.  As a system approcahses fascism, it moves RIGHT as it approches Anarchy it moves LEFT.Both extremes are equally unpalatable, but there is a discernable direction.

Mad Max rules

Ha! Ron, Royal's moving in on your zinger turf...

[Tparks86 0]

The nation is liberal.Then why did Bush win the last election?  Let  me guess...the "conservative media" (fox news) scared the country into voting for him?Al Franken is liberal, George Soros, and hollywood are liberal.  It's the things that come from these people mouth's that make the country believe there are more liberals out there than there really are.  Move on.org--They're like the billboard for the current left.  "We have no solutions and no real ideas, so we'll just flame anyone or anything conservative and make documentaries that are full of lies, and hope that people start believing our lies.  If that doesn't work, we'll just keep complaining--people love complaining."

The nation IS liberal. As i pointed out, the VAST MAJORITY of Americans agree with liberal's on most issues according to every study done on the subject. To answer your question, I dont know why Bush won the election. Just because people support liberal ideas doesnt mean their smart enough to support liberal politicians.

Hmm...So, the country is liberal and they support liberal ideas but they won't vote for people who represent their ideas? What kind of f'd up democracy is that?Liberals corner you into taking their stance. "Tolerance" We must be tolerant of all people and offend no one. And if you aren't tolerant than you are a racist, or a sexist, or ignorant. The fact is most of America have foundational conservative views on social and moral issues.

[alf13 0]

Knock that censored off, I'm trying to win money here!

How are ya doing? You should isolate by three-betting against cutoff raises if you find any pair on the button.Tell me how you do.

[Ron_Mexico 4,219]

Royal is my Canadian lover. Gadjet, you said you don't like anaI so we'll have to work something else out.

[Smasharoo 0]

How are ya doing? You should isolate against cutoff raises if you find any pair on the button.Tell me how you do.Waiting for you to take the $1000 bet.I mean it's fact that Hitler was a Socialist, yeah?Hahaha.I love people who have no idea what they're talking about. When they call me ignorant? So delicious.

[PMJackson21 0]

In his book Mein Kampf, Hitler wrote 'the suspicion was whispered in German Nationalist circles that we also were merely another variety of Marxism, perhaps even Marxists suitably disguised, or better still, Socialists... We used to roar with laughter at these silly faint-hearted bourgeoisie and their efforts to puzzle out our origin, our intentions and our aims. 'Care to retort Adolf's view on his own party?Patrick

Howard dean= "I am a conservative."there ya go...rebutted.

Yikes....that's the best you can do? I assume that means you are saying Hitler is lying here? Patrick