CobaltBlue 662 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Anyone else playing on Seals With Clubs? Seems like one of the best options for US players with regard to speed of moving money around. If anyone here with 500+ posts wants to try it out, I can ship 100 chips (.1btc). Offer good for first five that want it. Edit: .01btc Link to post Share on other sites
GWCGWC 83 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 You should get a referral from anyone taking you up on this. Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted March 19, 2013 Author Share Posted March 19, 2013 You should get a referral from anyone taking you up on this. Care to give it a spin? Link to post Share on other sites
GWCGWC 83 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 I will totally take you up on this and give you a referral if I get an itch to play. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,353 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 You guys wanna join a site that's owned in part by Bryan Micon, be my guest, but to me the phrase that comes to mind is Caveat Emptor. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted March 19, 2013 Author Share Posted March 19, 2013 Caveat Emptor. Certainly. Proper caution should be taken. I will say that one of the nice things about SWC is that you can withdraw your BR from them overnight and then re-deposit it the next day with almost no fees and very speedily. Oh, and also pretty sweet that the market has gone from $13.5/btc when I bought in to $57/btc as of today. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,353 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 yeah, my opinions of bit coins as a currency are independent with SWC, think it's exciting currency. I actually think that bitcoin MMORPG that Micon is pimping that is based on gambling has huge potential. If you can suck in on the addictive personality of compulsive MMORPG players, I can imagine that would be a untapped gambling cash cow. Link to post Share on other sites
manolillocabezas 0 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Certainly. Proper caution should be taken. I will say that one of the nice things about SWC is that you can withdraw your BR from them overnight and then re-deposit it the next day with almost no fees and very speedily. Oh, and also pretty sweet that the market has gone from $13.5/btc when I bought in to $57/btc as of today. I've played sometimes, but their serve is always down, many times I can't played for this reason... Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,353 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 You guys wanna join a site that's owned in part by Bryan Micon, be my guest, but to me the phrase that comes to mind is Caveat Emptor. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
vincenttafolla979 0 Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Get referral from someone. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,320 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 From the Las Vegas Sun http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2015/mar/06/bitcoin-bust-poker-site-operator-under-investigati/ Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,353 Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/las-vegas/nevada-ag-charges-online-poker-operator-who-used-bitcoin The Nevada Attorney General’s Office and state gaming regulators are pursuing the operator of an unlicensed online poker site in what’s believed to be first prosecution of its kind by the state. Attorney General Adam Laxalt has scheduled a news conference Tuesday to give details of a case against Bryan Micon and his Bitcoin-fueled Seals with Clubs poker site, which was shut down Feb. 11. An arrest warrant was issued against Micon in Las Vegas Justice Court on Monday on one count of operating an unlicensed interactive gaming system. The charge carries a penalty of up to 10 years in prison and a $50,000 fine. Speaking from Antigua in a YouTube video in late February, Micon described a raid of his Las Vegas home. “A bunch of guys with guns broke down my door, put me in handcuffs, serving a warrant from the Nevada gaming commission,” he said. The 10 agents “stole most of my electronics,” he added. Court papers filed Monday state that Micon operated Seals with Clubs, which accepted Bitcoin digital currency, between March 1, 2014 and Feb. 9, 2015 “without first procuring and thereafter maintaining in effect the required licenses.” Micon promptly shut down Seals With Clubs, but then launched a new Bitcoin poker site, SwCPoker.eu. “All the Bitcoins were safe,” he said in his YouTube statement, encouraging players to pull their currency from the former site. “Math does not bow to guns.” Micon was not charged with a crime in February, and it was unclear whether he was still in Antigua when the $20,000 arrest warrant was issued Monday. “After I was led out in handcuffs in my underwear, it was pretty clear that it was proper to leave sooner rather than later,” he said in the video. “And I didn’t really want my 2-year-old daughter, whom I love very much to grow up in a police state where creativity is often met with guns, handcuffs.” He said the gaming authorities indicated that they were familiar with his “social feeds and my entire output as a journalist.” He continued: “I don’t think I was doing anything unethical.” Micon also supported himself with revenue from live and online poker winnings and operation of legal websites dealing with news about gaming and Bitcoin. Reached through email Monday, Micon directed inquiries to his lawyer. Link to post Share on other sites
David_Sklansky 1,903 Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 #FreeMicon Link to post Share on other sites
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CobaltBlue 662 Posted May 2, 2015 Author Share Posted May 2, 2015 Sort of? I mean, no one's lost money as far as I know. Link to post Share on other sites
Scroom 436 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 The point was the site itself was built up on the regulatory insight of Bryan Micon, which is to say, none. Most "bitcoiners" are like this. They are deeply enamored with idealistic theories but have dogshit comprehension of reality. I think the guy is getting straight ****ed, but play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Running an online cryptocurrency poker room from the state where the gaming protectionism racket is unbelievably strong, was dumb. Yet another thing that some people saw coming but were brushed off by the eLawyers and "law students" who insisted there was nothing to worry about for (reasons), not too dissimilar to the same naive retards who chirped the same Pollyanna horseshit prior to black Friday, when you had all kinds of very credible people pointing out that the sites were vulnerable to the legislation. He should just stay overseas and that's that. He played a game in a gray area, he lost, the consequence is expatriation but its really not all that bad. The only thing you really miss in exile are the funerals when your family members die. Everything else can be managed elsewhere and since his assets are most assuredly entirely digital, they're portable. Whatever money he can get out of his US bank account (if its still there) should be gotten, but he won't be able to bank due to FATCA. As a Jew, he can go to Israel, though. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,320 Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Look like Micon is going to face the charges in Vegas. http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/las-vegas/vegas-based-bitcoin-poker-operator-return-us-face-charge Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,320 Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Bitcoin poker operator, back in Las Vegas, agrees to deal Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,320 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 BITCOIN ONLINE POKER OPERATOR BRYAN MICON GIVEN TWO YEARS PROBATION, FINED $25K 2 Link to post Share on other sites
GWCGWC 83 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 That's how you dodge bullets. Link to post Share on other sites
Scroom 436 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 That's how you dodge bullets. Kinda. I mean, events like this are massively disruptive in ones life. They all but guarantee he can never enter the 'mainstream world' again which might not have been much of a consideration for him to begin with, but definitely will be if he can't provide for his family at some point. He played his hand well (left prior to being charged, negotiated his own return, benefited from voluntarily returning) but its not a spot you ever want to be in. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,353 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Kinda. I mean, events like this are massively disruptive in ones life. They all but guarantee he can never enter the 'mainstream world' again which might not have been much of a consideration for him to begin with, but definitely will be if he can't provide for his family at some point. He played his hand well (left prior to being charged, negotiated his own return, benefited from voluntarily returning) but its not a spot you ever want to be in. His wife is a lawyer, she can provide for the family if shit hits the fan. Micon waved goodbye to a square life over a decade ago. He also got a hardcore super lawyer. The people who thought micon was going to get crucified for got one very important thing about Bryan.... Kids got more moves than a mongoose. I'm happy for him. Godspeed, Black Emperor. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Scroom 436 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 He's now 'on the radar'. As far as gray area shit goes, you get one wave-by. He just used his. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,353 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 He was the king of the grey area. Link to post Share on other sites
Scroom 436 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 He won't be much longer, or if he stays that way, he's a lock to do time eventually. Everyone's a world-changing idealist willing to live by their own thesis until your door gets kicked and you see your name printed across the top of the charge sheet, versus the State of, or the United States of... Doesn't he have a kid now? And isn't he a winning low to mid stakes player? That's the rest of his life, right there. Either that or aliyah and start over. Link to post Share on other sites
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